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Dooley ‘honor’ a disgrace

Leave it to Michael Adams to find a way to make honoring Vince Dooley a backhanded slap in the face.

Dooley supporters (me included) have called in recent years for the retired coach/athletics director’s name to somehow be attached to Sanford Stadium or its field, the site where he made his legend.

There’s also been a movement to locate a statue of Dooley outside the stadium.

Adams, of course, was having none of it.

But the man booed at the Sugar Bowl just about as lustily as the unbeloved mayor of New Orleans is a politician, after all, and he recognizes that it’s not in his best interests to completely ignore Dooley’s legacy.

So now the athletic association (which, let’s face it, doesn’t do anything these days without Adams’ OK) has come up with a plan to establish a “Vince Dooley Athletic Complex” on south campus and stick the statue in a little parklike setting way up Lumpkin Street. Sure, it’s near the Butts-Mehrer building, but it’s about a 20-minute walk from the stadium.

I bet there was a smirk on Adams’ face when they came up with this one. On the surface, they’re “honoring” Dooley. But at the same time it’s one more opportunity for Adams to put Dooley in his place … far away from Sanford Stadium and the main UGA athletic spotlight.

What a sorry episode. This isn’t the way to pay tribute to a man who’s devoted most of his life to UGA and served it proudly.

Dooley should be honored where his teams played and won championships. Period.

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By 1eyedJack

February 11, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

Amen.

By mildew man

February 11, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this

Butts-Mehrer is where championships are won. The practice field, the weight room and the locker room is all right there. If you want to put a statue in front of the stadium, put Hershel’s up there.

By mildew man

February 11, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this

Butts-Mehrer is where championships are won. The practice field, the weight room and the locker room is all right there. If you want to put a statue in front of the stadium, put Hershel’s up there.

By He's overrated

February 11, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this

This is a fine honor. No name on stadium necessary. Take away 1980-83 from Dooley, and he’s a 7-win per year coach. He’s an 8-win per year coach with those years. That’s not greatness. It’s good, but not great.

By TDone

February 11, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this

I agree with He’s Overrated.

By dpbdawg

February 11, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this

Can we rename the Porta Potties at the Hull Street lot after Adams ?

By Wozzo the Wonder Dog

February 11, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this

Like Dooley. Don’t like Adams. Having said that, I wonder if Richt (and/or some other UGA coach) may some day have a record that dwarfs Coach Dooley’s. Welcome to Sanford-Dooley-Richt-Bobo-Nguyen-Xenon 7 from the Rigel Cluster Stadium! I’ve said this at least twice before: it should have been the Butts-Dooley-Mehre Building, if only to get rid of the laughable current name.

By Larry

February 11, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this

Dooley was, at best, a medium-good coach; he was not a good man. Any “honor” accorded him is more than he deserves.

By Sven Gordon

February 11, 2008 7:33 PM | Link to this

Only at UGa is a man who was notorious for skirting rules, thumbing his nose at academic policy and under his watch saw the school fall on probation time and time again per NCAA violations, honored with such lust and vigor. When did we start honoring rule breakers?

By Dennis

February 11, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this

Adams is always going to have it in for Dooley. He is well aware that the fall out from the Jan Kemp affair lopped off the head of the President and left Dooley with even more power. Those academic guys stick together and in Adams eyes Dooley deserves no accolades.

By GW

February 11, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

I’m OK with it if Coach Dooley is but I have one question. Will any televised events have the Dooley name on the opening graphics and intros? Will it be Stegemen @ Dooley Center, Foley @ Dooley Center or Magill @ Dooley Center, etc. If not the world will never really recognize that Coach Dooley was behind the growth of the athletic program. Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Clemson, etc. leave no doubt.

By RODAWG

February 11, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this

MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR COACH DOOLEY IS SANFORD STADIUM @ DOOLEY FIELD. LIKE CHIP TOWERS SAID WHEN HE SAW AUBURN’S FIELD NAMED AFTER TIE DYE, TO MAKE A COMPARISON BETWEEN THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE SANFORD STADIUM TO DOOLEY STADIUM. ADAMS SAID THAT HE DOESN’T DO HYPHENS, WELL HIT THE ROAD JACK. HAS FOR OVERRATED COMMENTS [ADAMS OR EVANS CRONIES], YOU TAKE FOUR OF THE BEST YEARS OF ANY COACH’S CAREER AND HELL EVEN BEAR BRYANT LOOKS MEDIOCRE. VINCE IS A LEGEND IN THE ANNALS OF NCAA FOOTBALL AND IS RECOGNIZED AS SUCH EVERYWHERE BUT RIGHT HERE IN THE CLASSIC CITY. GIVE THIS MAN HIS DUE WITH DOOLEY-SANFORD STADIUM. LETS HOPE THAT COACH RICHT KICKS SO MUCH BUTT THAT WE CHANGE THE NAME OF ATHENS TO RICHTVILLE! BUT LETS DO SOMETHING FOR COACH DOOLEY RIGHT NOW! WE’VE WASTED TO MUCH TIME ALREADY.

By FL DAWG

February 11, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this

For all the Dooley detractors…he did bring us a National Championship. Let us not forget that, While I like Richt more than Dooley, he has not brought the NC home yet. Alas, Dooley was more than just football, he was the athletic program. He has a number of NC as AD. That said, it is Sanford Stadium, period, lets don’t mess that up. Dooley Field would be o.k. or the practice field being named after him. It just doesnt need to be over blown. It was just one NC afterall. Good luck to Dooley and all his endeavors.

By RAMBLE ON!

February 11, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this

If Adams hadn’t canned Dooley, St. Richt wouldn’t be coaching in Athens and the fleabags would still be losing to GT.

By Bob

February 11, 2008 8:32 PM | Link to this

Dooley’s tenure as athletic director has to be considered and was probably a factor in Pres. Adams’ decision. Considering the outstanding record of Georgia’s athletics teams over the years, this honor is appropriate.

By Hunk Erdown

February 11, 2008 8:37 PM | Link to this

To restrict an Honor to Coach Dooley to just the football field kinda negates the great work he did as Athletic Director, for all of UGA athletics. I think the Athletic Complex and a statue on the University grounds is a wonderful tribute, taking into account the fact that Coach Dooley contributed to the whole of UGA, not just football. I love Coach Dooley and think he was a great leader and had the love and best interests for his players in his heart, but was He the iconic legend that Bill wants to make of him as a football coach? Did his record rise to the stature of, let’s say… Bear Bryant? Coach Dooley’s record at UGA is currently being surpassed by Coach Richt, who will within a few years reach legendary status that Coach Dooley never attained. Some would even argue that He already has.

The tribute that the University is planning for Coach Dooley is nothing to sneeze at or belittle. I think it is a tremendous honor, and certainly not a “disgrace”. This kind of crap being spewed by Bill King is shameful and takes away from the great memory of Coach Dooley and his accomplishments by causing controversy at a time of honor and celebration. I don’t like Adams, but this is a huge step in the right direction for him. Coupled with the role he has taken in trying to seek a resolution to the debacle of the BCS this is a nice gesture towards trying to show some semblence of caring and loyalty to UGA and its alunae.

I hope that the true UGA fans will recognize the shallowness that has become your trademark with the blogs you author and reject the notions that you have introduced in this shameful attempt to cause dissention and detract from the honor that Coach Dooley “should” be able to feel with the tribute of a statue in a beautiful park on the UGA campus and a new Athletic Complex with his name on it.

Shame on you Bill King. You should resign from doing this blog and confine yourself to writing any further garbage as grafitti on the side of some MARTA train. You owe Coach Dooley and the entire Bulldog Nation an apology for trying to ruin his day of glory and belittle it into something less than the honorable tribute that it is.

By Dawgstyle

February 11, 2008 8:54 PM | Link to this

Heck….. Dooley should have both the complex and Stadium named in his honor. The Statue should be placed at the stadium. Otherwise Adams can shove it up his egotistical snobbish A$$ along with his few supporters as well! Adams is like the BCS…. A JOKE!!!!

By Dorsey Hill

February 11, 2008 8:54 PM | Link to this

To those who argue that Coach Dooley is ‘overrated’:

GFY!

6 sec championships while Bryant was at Bama and recruiting vs. Clemson, UF and Auburn who were constantly on probation for various “recruiting irregularities” is pretty darn good. CMR gets almost all of the good players in state because cheating is pretty much in the past. Dooley lost a ton of the best in state players because the comp was cheating. And he still kicked their butts on the field most of the time.

And ramble on, dooley hired richt you ignorant insect.

By akddawg

February 11, 2008 9:05 PM | Link to this

After looking at the plan, I don’t see what your problem with it is. Given Dooley’s interest in gardening it looks like something he would like. Plus he spent more time around the area that it will be at than he did at the stadium.

By the way, Ramble On, if Tech people are so much more intellegent than us, why is it that you don’t know that Dooley was the AD when Mark Richt was hired as coach of UGA?

By Hunk Erdown

February 11, 2008 9:17 PM | Link to this

You guys should go back to the sports front page and pull up the link showing the plans for what is going to be built. The statue is one of Dooley being carried off the field on the shoulders of two players. There is a walkway that goes between two walls on either side of the Statue. On the wall on the left is Dooley’s record and a timeline of his career as a football coach. The other wall has a timeline and record of his career as AD with all of those championships in all the various sports. The walkway leads through a beautiful garden of flowering trees, shrubs, and flowers. I have been told that they plan to use clippings and transplants from Dooley’s own garden for a good bit of the “park”. It is truly beautiful and, IMO, well planned and thought out… much better and unique than simply adding Dooley’s name to the field/stadium… given a choice between “Dooley” field and the park, the park is by far a more extensive and beautiful tribute, and will be one-of-a-kind.

By Flik

February 11, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

Dooley did just as much as an AD as a football coach and did a great deal to elevate the status of the “other sports” at UGA, so this honor is appropriate.

By Hunk Erdown

February 11, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this

http://www.uga.edu/Facilities.pdf

By 'ol dawg

February 11, 2008 9:24 PM | Link to this

The pathetic immaturity and jealous state some human beings have is so sad. You people want to take something that is so irritating to you and belittle it into the ground, thinking that people will think you are a Dawg fan or alum. Your parents I would hope, would be ashamed of you. If not, they too have no class or sense of being. If you are an adult, then you really are lowering yourself to their level. Coach Dooley did much for the U. of Georgia in all athletics. To say he cheated is pathetic. In fact, I would love to challenge you to show your face in front of me, but you will cower instead behind the screen in front of you. Why don’t you try being a man, little person. Your jealousy is so sad, and even more apparent than you have the intelligence to recognize.!

By Dawgstyle

February 11, 2008 9:37 PM | Link to this

Yes I reviewed the plan and it is very nice but I think a Statue or a bust of Dooley should also be placed at the Stadium as well. BTW….. Any news about the indoor practice facility for CMR? Maybe that could be named after Dooley. But I guess Adams would probably oppose to that idea as well.

By Chuck

February 11, 2008 9:39 PM | Link to this

Dooley was a great statesman, but he’s no Coach Bryant. If not for Herschel, Vince has slightly above average coaching stats. Go ahead and co-name the stadium after him and Buck Belue and be done with it.

By War Eagle

February 11, 2008 9:47 PM | Link to this

I support Coach Dooley, appreciate his time as an Athlete and Coach at Auburn.He gave UGA more in 5 years than Adams will his entire watch. Adams is a fund raiser and goes with the flow. I respect him as a University leader, but Coach Dooley deserves Sanford-Dooley Stadium not a building complex.

By Bryan G.

February 11, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this

The headline should read “Dooley to be honored…sort of.”

This is the most un-fitting tribute for someone who deserves to have his name on the stadium that he built.

By HVLDawg

February 11, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this

Sanford-Dooley Stadium? GTFOOH. I loved Dooley as a child, but hey I grew up. Give him his honor. He deserves it. But be real. Its not time to rename the stadium.

Dooley hired CMR? Even a blind squirel…..Do you remember Ray Gump. Do you remember Glen Mason? How about Jim Harrick?

Long live CMR. Sic em, woof, woof, woof.

By Bob Sacamano

February 11, 2008 10:28 PM | Link to this

Sweet Fancy Moses, War Eagle, Adams doesn’t deserve anyone’s respect. He doesn’t have the respect of the students (I should know, I’m one of ‘em). He doesn’t have the respect of the faculty. He is not Master of His Domain. All he has is the Regents in his back pocket, which unfortunately, is more than enough to keep this sleezeball in power regardless of how he’s abused funds (including giving his wife a $100,000 a year job that was about as real as that Bomar kid’s job in Oklahoma) or abused the rights of the students at UGA (using the UGA Rent-a-Cops as his personal gestapo and the whole plus-minus grading system).

He’s a regular Soup Nazi, but instead of a soup kitchen, he controls the flagship university of the Deep South. As FDR (Franklin Delano Romanowski) once wished of my friend Kramer, I think we’d all be better off if he’d drop dead. And yes, I was one of those who booed lustily at the sUGAr Bowl.

I do, however, believe this is a nice touch in honor of Dooley, and I believe it’s killing Adams to do anything to honor Dooley. So I think this is coming from the boosters and Adams has nothing to do with it. I do believe Dooley should be honored by having the field named after him, or maybe have it be Sanford-Dooley Stadium. But I’m just a poor student who will remain poor (because teachers are always poor) unless I win the lottery. So what I think doesn’t matter to a guy like Michael Adams.

By Bob Sacamano

February 11, 2008 10:30 PM | Link to this

HVL Dawg… Michael Adams forced Dooley to hire Jim Harrick. Everything that Harrick did to this University can be laid at the feet of that snake. Yet another sin that can be added to the vast total of sins against UGA by Michael Adams.

By SickandTired

February 11, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

This is the most ridiculous thing Adams has done. Vince Dooley should be honored somehow with the stadium. Hell, we bury our dead mascots there and we can’t put Dooley’s name on something at the Stadium. For you Johnny come lately Dawg Fans that don’t know anything but the Mark Richt era, Vince Dooley has done 100 times in his tenure than Mark Richt. But this isn’t about Marky boy, it’s about Vince Dooley and he deserves his due and shouldn’t be denied because of a guy that came after Vince was done coaching and will be gone from Athens long before Vince is. Name the field after Dooley and be done with it, and name the athletic complex after him too. There, I said it. Georgia fans never cease to amaze me sometimes.

By quaildawg

February 11, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this

Personally I (and I’m going to hate myself for saying this) think that going the route that Tech did with retaining the original honor of Grant Field and then naming the stadium after Dodd would be the way to go (just in reverse here in Athens). This way you maintain the dignity for the Sanford legacy and give just honor to Coach Dooley. And to you naysayers about Coach Dooley’s record (I’m not old enough to have witnessed this) you need to pull out a history book on UGA football to gain a better appreciation of what Coach Dooley did in his tenure. When he arrived at UGA the state of GA football was misrable at best. You can thank Dooley for UGA’s lone meeting & victory over Mighty Michigan in Ann Arbor because he had to create matchups like these to generate interest and publicity for UGA football because it had become irrelevant. He NEVER lost to a Bobby Dodd coached team. He beat Bryant and Jordan and Neyland and Vaught. He brought UGA back to being a factor in the SEC when winning the title meant you had bested everyone in the SEC that consisted of 10 teams. (no east-west divisions and no playoff to get a second chance) HE OWNED FLORIDA IN JACKSONVILLE!!! Rightfullly he should be honored and it should be more directly accorded with the venue where he spent 25 years carving out his legacy. Dooley’s Dawgs!!! SEC Champs 66,68,76,80,81,82 National Champs 1980

By Red Pepper

February 11, 2008 10:49 PM | Link to this

The knee-jerks who claim Dooley only averaged 7 games a year—minus Herschel Walker—show their ignorance. That’s a 70% winning percentage—80% when you include Walker, by their own numbers. The don’t seem to recall the piddling last years of Wally Butts and the grim Johnny Griffiths years. Dooley restored—yes, restored—Georgia to national recognition while competing against Bryant, Jordan and Vaught. Don’t kid yourselves; he was a great football coach.

By majordawg94

February 11, 2008 11:01 PM | Link to this

This is a great honor. To put the Dooley name on the football stadium diminishes his accomplishments, in a way. Some of his greatest successes came as AD. He championed UGAs ascention in women’s athletics. By honoring him near Butts-Mehre the University is honoring all of his accomplishments. And if you don’t know who Vince Dooley is, hearing the name during a game broadcast in the name of the arena won’t help you.

Kudos to Vince for a jobe well-done and Adams for a job…done.

By majordawg94

February 11, 2008 11:01 PM | Link to this

This is a great honor. To put the Dooley name on the football stadium diminishes his accomplishments, in a way. Some of his greatest successes came as AD. He championed UGAs ascention in women’s athletics. By honoring him near Butts-Mehre the University is honoring all of his accomplishments. And if you don’t know who Vince Dooley is, hearing the name during a game broadcast in the name of the arena won’t help you.

Kudos to Vince for a jobe well-done and Adams for a job…done.

By Bob Sacamano

February 11, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this

SickandTired, for you to denigrate what Coach Richt has done for reasons of “sticking up” for Dooley is ridiculous. Dooley coached at Georgia for 25 years. Coach Richt has been here 7. And in seven years, Coach Richt has a better winning percentage, a better bowl record, and been to more sUGAr Bowls than Dooley in his first seven years (don’t forget, Dooley has a losing record in the sUGAr Bowl and lost a few games he shouldn’t have, Bobby Cox-style). And Coach Richt has to do this against a league full of great to good coaches. In Dooley’s time, it was The Bear, himself, and Pat Dye, and that was pretty much it.

What Dooley did as coach and AD at UGA was awesome in the way that word used to mean before it became devalued. But what Coach Richt is accomplishing right now at UGA is historic by UGA standards. In 25 years, who knows what will happen, but I’d be willing to stake REAL money that Coach Richt has more bowl wins, more double digit winning seasons, more top-5 and top-10 finishes, more SEC Championships, more sUGAr Bowl wins (shouldn’t be hard, hasn’t he already equaled Dooley there?) and at least 2 National Championships.

And for the last time, SickandTired, and everyone else like you, Coach Richt isn’t going anywhere. Remember, Dooley had a very public flirtation with Auburn. When the Miami job came open, Coach Richt told them to buzz off, as he will tell the FSU people. He’s here to stay in Athens, forever. His family is here, and not just his wife and kids. HIS FAMILY IS HERE. Brad Johnson and Richt’s kid sister. His other siblings. Their parents. He’s going to be here for a long while.

So stop saying otherwise. You make yourself a fool in saying foolish things.

By SickandTired

February 11, 2008 11:19 PM | Link to this

Hey Bobby boy, let me tell you something, I have more respect for Vince Dooley than I can ever, yes EVER have for Mark Richt. It’s personal, the guy professes to be a Christian and is, but he’s flawed, very flawed and I’m not speculating. If you’d get your nose out of his A$$ and be a Dawg fan you’d understand why Vince Dooley deserves to be honored.

By SickandTired

February 11, 2008 11:21 PM | Link to this

And another thing Bob SacO$hit, KMA.

By Bob Sacamano

February 11, 2008 11:50 PM | Link to this

SickandTired… if you knew the first thing about true Christianity, you’d know that we all have flaws, that we are all imperfect beings, and that we all sin. You must practice one of those judgmental denominations that seem to populate the south that ignore tenants such as Judge not lest ye be judged and Do unto others as you would have them do to you. You know, they follow the tenants of We’re always right, and you’re always wrong, and It’s perfectly okay to point out everyone else’s sins, but our own hubris doesn’t count, or maybe, My hypocrisy is okay, because I believe I have Christ on my side, though if he were to come back, I might find I have some ‘splainin’ to do.

That last one is my favorite. I’m sure it’s your’s, SickandTired, whether you’re a Christian or not. Hypocrisy is hypocrisy. One thing I can be sure of, is that you’re the one projecting your own personal biases on to Coach Richt. He’s never proclaimed himself to be perfect, and his love of Christ does not proclaim that, either. In fact, his love of Christ marks him as a man who knows his status as a sinner who needs Christ in his life. How about this, SickandTired, under Dooley we know he cheated as a coach and did underhanded things to win. Time has washed many of those old wounds away, in fact, people like you blame the whistle blower instead of the wrong-doer. It’s like people who want to blame everyone else but Barry Bonds, or people who want to criticize Jose Canseco for being a slimeball, but a slimeball who tells the truth.

I think and believe Dooley must be honored. I also am a realist, something you are obviously not. You’re beyond a fanatic. And you have proven yourself a fool with you denigration of Coach Richt and his historic accomplishments in such a short time at Georgia against twice the competition under ten times the scrutiny. What was Dooley’s bowl record, SickandTired? If Richt ever misses a bowl, as Dooley did five times, you’d be calling for his head. If Richt ever has a bowl losing streak such as Dooley did (particularly the embarrassing sUGAr Bowl debacles), you’d be calling for his head. In fact, after losing the 2005 sUGAr Bowl, no worse than losing the 1982 and 1983 sUGAr Bowls, I definitely remember you calling for Mark Richt’s head.

Now, I’m not trying to denigrate Dooley. He’s the reason for much rejoicing in Bulldog Nation. He’s the re-builder of our program. He deserves every honor coming his way. In fact he deserves more, but will never see it as long as the Snake is in the grass of the North Campus. But for you to foolishly try to diminish the great things Coach Richt has accomplished at UGA to try and make Dooley look better is actually spitting on the face of Dooley’s legacy at UGA. You might as well just spit on his statue when it’s erected, and Dooley would be the first person to tell you how much of a fool you are acting.

You’re not a fan. You’re not a member of Bulldog Nation. You’re like some sick, twisted fundamentalist who can’t let go of a past, which as great as it was, could and should have been better (much like the Braves run). Historians don’t let the years erode the truth of what came before, to remember the good and let the bad be erased by looking through rose-colored glasses as you do. No, we dig for the truth, the truth at all costs, the truth. The unvarnished truth. You, SickandTired, you have no use for the unvarnished truth. All you want to see is the Gospel According to SickandTired, and anyone who doesn’t see it your way is wrong. Well, I can tell you, being wrong has never felt more sane. If I’m wrong to your idea of right in this issue, than I think I can live with that. Because I’m not fooling myself. I’m not deluding myself with days of grandeur that were grand, but not as grand as I make them out to be. And instead of embracing the exciting present and future of Bulldog Nation, you jealously guard and “protect” your particular twisted vision of the part against all comers.

I pity you. There’s no future in the past, SickandTired. And as long as you’re stuck back there, you can never move forward with the rest of us. Have fun reliving the “good old days” that more like the “okay old days.” Me, I’m staying fluid and I’ll continue on the historic path laid out for us by our current coach all the while singing the praises of the man who laid the foundation for our future successes. See, SickandTired, you can praise both and not have it be considered a slap in the face of those who came before. And Vince Dooley would be the first person to correct you.

By Gen Neyland

February 11, 2008 11:51 PM | Link to this

It has been written that Time Loves A Hero…Dooley deserves any and all plaudities ( including his staff ) UGA can bestow upon his legacy. He is respected and admired beyond Sanford Stadium and Dooley Field…Adams just doesn’t get the big picture when even Ray Charles can see it…

By reddawg

February 11, 2008 11:52 PM | Link to this

Gimme a break …………. Dooley Stadium? This is the guy that told Erk Russell not to win too soon or fans would expect it. Not to mention scores of other trash acts. If you must name something after Dooley make sure it is Barbara Dooley.

By Greg

February 11, 2008 11:59 PM | Link to this

Even more ironic that Dooley will be honored in a portion of campus that includes the relic known as Stegeman Coliseum. After all, Dooley was the AD for 25 years who completely ignored the vast potential of the hoops program. Only toward the end of his tenure, when he realized his legacy would be affected, did Dooley pay ANY attention to hoops. Disgraceful considering the hoops talent that comes out of Atlanta and the state as a whole. It’s called a vision of what could be and Dooley failed miserably in that regard when it came to the hoops program.

By Bob Sacamano

February 11, 2008 11:59 PM | Link to this

This is how you know a fundamentalist whacko like SickandTired, people. When you try to appeal to logic and reason by pointing out the flaws in his argument, the fundamentalist whacko will then devolve to name calling and mud slinging because he does not live in a world which revolves around logic and reason. No, he lives in a world of extreme emotion, hypocrisy, and infantile belief structures most of us have let go of.

It also sounds like SickandTired has a lot of pent up anger and bitterness. Maybe he is Master of His Domain. Maybe it’s time that he relieved himself of a little stress. Take the dog for a walk, if you will. Or maybe, he should practice the use of a calming phrase. May I suggest Serenity Now, or Hoochie Mama, two calming phrases which didn’t help my friend Kramer or Frank Costanza, but which may help you SickandTired, to go to a more peaceful place where both Coaches, Dooley and Richt, can exist side-by-side in your fractured, child-like mind.

Serenty Now.

By DirtyDawg

February 12, 2008 12:42 AM | Link to this

As long as we’re on the subject, the man that is even more overdue for recognition is Joel Eaves. Here’s a guy that came to Georgia in a tumultuous time…brought class, dignity and an unknown, untried, assistant coach with him from Auburn. Together they restored Georgia’s athletic program and set us on a path that has continued to go up and to be one we can all be proud of. I don’t care what the ultimate tribute is for Coach Dooley - and Coach Eaves - so long as Dooley is in favor of it and Michael Adams is nowhere around when the dedication ceremony is held.

By Stafford>Tebow

February 12, 2008 1:30 AM | Link to this

this blog is pointless. i thought it was a great way to honor dooley. bill king, do you know some kinda inside information that we dont know? are you best friends with dooley? i dont see how you can see this as a slap in the face. you are reading way too much into this dude. like mildew man said, if you wanna put a statue up then you might want to get one for herschel instead of dooley

By Teddy Jack Eddy

February 12, 2008 1:44 AM | Link to this

Say what you will,Adams is overseeing cleaning up what was the worst sports program in the SEC for academics.I’m a Dooley fan but he has to bare some responsibility for what happened on his watch.

By Dooley Sucks

February 12, 2008 1:44 AM | Link to this

Dooley sucks. You know why Goff was the coach after Dooley b/c Dooley did not want Erk Russell stealing his glory. Russell went to GA Southern and started a IAA dynasty. What did Goff do? Plus forget the Hershel years and what do you have? Three SEC in twenty or so years. Dooley was only “great” b/c of Hershel Walker. Mark Richt deserves a statue. ONE Last thing. Dooley went to Auburn. AUBURN!

By Concerned

February 12, 2008 2:50 AM | Link to this

First of all, Coach Dooley offered the job to Coach Russell, who turned it down saying the opportunity “came too late.” Coach Russell retired after the 90 season.

Denny Stadium now Bryant-Denny Stadium

Hare Stadium now Jordan-Hare Stadium

Hemmingway Stadium now Vaught-Hemmingway

Consequently, it should be Dooley-Samford Stadium.

By Concerned

February 12, 2008 2:54 AM | Link to this

Sorry, Coach Russell was offered the job after Coach Dooley retired in 88. Coach Russell retired after winning the National Championship in 1989.

By ............................................BuLLdawg

February 12, 2008 5:08 AM | Link to this

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Coach Dooley’s football teams lost 3 games a year for 25 years. That is 11th best in the nation at football, which is also exactly where the Georgia football program is all-time from 1892 : 11th best in the nation in wins. Football teams from 1964 to 1988 played 11 games a season, including their bowl games. He won 6 SEC Championships and we have a grand total of 12 since 1933. We lose 2.7 games a year in the Coach Richt Era, and that is 6th best in the nation. Vincent J. Dooley took a stadium in 1964 and built it as it is today - the 6th largest stadium in the country. Vince’s real claim to fame was as our Athletic Director, where on his watch he got us to 17 national championships in all sports. His 201 wins in 25 seasons as football coach is only part of his legacy. Vince won 8 bowl games and tied two more bowl games in his 20 bowl game appearances. Georgia was known for his fundamentally sound offense, a conservative offense.

By ............................................BuLLdawg

February 12, 2008 5:09 AM | Link to this

15-6 and 1 tie vs. Clemson. 17-7 and 1 tie vs. Florida. 19-6 vs. Georgia Tech. 1-0 vs. Michigan. 1-0 vs. Notre Dame. 17-4 and 1 tie vs. South Carolina. 4-2 and 1 tie vs. Tennessee. 1-0 vs. UCLA. 1-0 vs. Texas. Bobby Dodd averaged a half a game fewer wins per year than Vince Dooley. Bobby Dodd is a college drop-out from Tennessee before becoming the Georgia Tech coach, and Vince Dooley never lost to and always beat Bobby Dodd in football. In addition Vince Dooley has two degrees from Auburn where he was their quarterback. Vince Dooley is one of 14 Georgia Bulldogs in the College Football Hall of Fame. In 1968, Vince’s football team is recognized in the NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision Records Book with but 1 loss as national champions according to Litkenhous and in 1966, the 10-1 Bulldogs of Vince Dooley also are recognized in the NCAA Official Records Book at national champions when Kenneth Massey Ranked UGA No. 1. Among his bowl game wins are the Cotton Bowl, the Gator Bowl, the Peach Bowl, and the Sugar Bowl. Vince Dooley was President of the American Football Coaches Association. Amos Alonzo Stagg Award was awarded by the American Coaches Association to Vince Dooley. Homer Rice Award was awarded by the Athletic Directors Association to Vince Dooley. The Paul Bear Bryant Award was awarded to Vince Dooley.

By ............................................BuLLdawg

February 12, 2008 5:11 AM | Link to this

When kids consider coming to The University of Georgia, largely they think of the success that Vince Dooley was the foundation of at this University. His millions of dollars in donations to the Chemistry Building and the Libraries on our Campus and his over 100 Academic All-Americans including 7 NCAA Top VIII Award Winners are testament to the Academic Success not only he had as a student-athlete and football coach, but also as a president of the National Association of Collegiate Athletic Directors. In fact, 3 of his last 6 seasons as our Athletics’ Director The University of Georgia was the No. 1 Athletics Department in the entire SEC, and averaged a No. 6 Ranking Nationally among all Athletic Departments in the Prestigious Directors’ Cup Standings annually.

We are today, not what Michael F. Adam$ claims for himself of what the Hope Scholarship has done to keep our best students in state for The University of Georgia, but what Vincent Joseph Dooley actually did accomplish in his 41 years leading our Athletics. During his tenure, UGA won 80 SEC Championships either as the Coach or Athletics Director and 7 of those in football. For this the James J. Corbett Award, the highest honor in collegiate athletics administration, was awarded to Vince Dooley in 2004.

Come in here and Vince isn’t great college drop-out Bobby Dodd is.

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By ............................................BuLLdawg

February 12, 2008 5:13 AM | Link to this

I don’t think it is a disgrace when Vince Dooley is “honored” he says by this. It is a good start, and highly deserved. Now, name the stadium or its field with his name in it too.

By CoastDog

February 12, 2008 5:59 AM | Link to this

Blame the nuts that hired A-Hole Adams. His claim to fame was running a school that had 14 students.

By Bulldyke Bill

February 12, 2008 6:07 AM | Link to this

the breeze kicked up vinny dooley grabbed my crotch at this moment I knew I was no lady I was a bulldyke Go dawgs

By SickandTired

February 12, 2008 6:29 AM | Link to this

Oh Bobby boy, thy long winded posts suggest thy brain has become why thouest protest so loudly about. I needeth not stress relief. In fact I am peaceful in the fact that I understand the difference between genuine character and that which is a sham. Worship thy coach if you will, hold him up to praise if you like but please defendeth him when he brings you shame and disgrace and the hallowed Sanford Stadium which we all love and most would agree should have at least some honor for Dooley attached to it. You see, I want to recognize Vince with that honor for what he HAS DONE, not reserve that honor for what Mark Richt MIGHT DO. Can you see that difference in your world?

By Jaime Gaverts

February 12, 2008 6:33 AM | Link to this

How many times was Uga on probation under Dooley’s watch? Jan Kemp saga? Constant skirting of rules. Lack of academic integrity. Heck, you oughta put up a statue of the guy that owned the dealership where Vince got Herschel’s Trans Am if you’re gonna honor anyone.

By Bamafan

February 12, 2008 7:02 AM | Link to this

Coach Dooley was a true southern gentlemen and good coach. Georgia needs to honor coach Dooley like the crimson tide has for its best coaches. Have a statue of coach Dooley near the stadium and name the football field or stadium after him. He is the best football coach the dawgs ever had until Mark Richt came on board. Just my 2 cents added in. GO DAWGS!!!

By Jackson

February 12, 2008 7:19 AM | Link to this

Alums won’t settle for anything less than “Dooley-Sanford Stadium”!!!!!!!!!!

By Gator Hater

February 12, 2008 7:24 AM | Link to this

and by the way—-keep those lizards off Georgia license plates——not a place for lower-evolved species! EXCESSIVE CELEBRATION!

By Gator Hater

February 12, 2008 7:25 AM | Link to this

and by the way—-keep those lizards off Georgia license plates——not a place for lower-evolved species! EXCESSIVE CELEBRATION!

By ryan

February 12, 2008 7:27 AM | Link to this

you’re just wrong on this one. this IS a fitting honor. why dishonor dr. sanford by changing the stadium’s name. naming a field is a lame alternative. i like what they’re doing.

By ryan

February 12, 2008 7:28 AM | Link to this

you’re just wrong on this one. this IS a fitting honor. why dishonor dr. sanford by changing the stadium’s name. naming a field is a lame alternative. i like what they’re doing.

By FLA DAWG

February 12, 2008 7:49 AM | Link to this

When both men are long gone it will be the name Vince Dooley that we remember with great respect.

And Dick Adams? Who was that?

By Bob Sacamano

February 12, 2008 7:50 AM | Link to this

Serenity Now, SickandTired, Serenity Now.

If you are to come here and slander the great coach we have now out of some misguided loyalty to the coach we had then, then you better bring some proof. Bring the proof, SickandTired, or shut up. It doesn’t get much easier than that.

Serenity Now.

By Matt the Brave

February 12, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this

Hey FLA Dawg, we’re going to be like…

“Oh yeah, that’s the guy who tried to make UGA his own little kingdom. Too bad he was really the village idiot.”

By Pat

February 12, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this

Folks responding here have a terrible sense of recall of facts of who Dooley hired and did not hire. Why should any coach have a Bryant like record to be honored with his name on the stadium of any school? Why should fans of other schools even care?

By Bob Sacamano

February 12, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this

FLA DAWG, one has to wonder if you’re a freeway alumni, because for you to even suggest that people will forget Mark Richt’s run at Georgia is so down right stupid, that if you did actually graduate from Georgia, I’d have to want to take a look at your degree to see if it were real.

Bill, please set these guys straight. Why do they feel the need to try and denigrate what one coach is doing to prop up what one guy did? It’s not reasonable, definitely not logical, and Vince Dooley himself would be the first person to call them out for doing so. As someone old enough to remember the end of Dooley’s career (was born in 1980), who lived through the wasted Goff years and mediocrity of the Donnan years, I for one appreciate what Coach Richt has been able to do: truly carry the torch at Georgia. Dooley rebuilt this school’s football tradition, but then watched as his two hand-picked successors almost threw it all away (would have been three if Glenn Mason were hired).

Mark Richt picked this program up from mediocrity and in seven years has 2 sUGAr Bowl victories in three trips, tying Dooley for sUGAr Bowl wins (remember his record there is an unspectacular 2-4, with some embarrassing losses), he has 2 SEC Championships. He has two top-3 finishes, another top-5 finish, and 5 overall top-10 finishes. His bowl record is 5-2 (Dooley’s was 8-10-2, so Richt is within a few years of equalling Dooley’s bowl wins). He has the third highest winning percentage in college football (after Stoops had those wins taken away) and unlike the Urban Myth who is ahead of him, he didn’t pad his resume at second rate schools in third rate conferences. Also, in four years, Meyer has already equalled Richt’s worst two years in seven. Remember, their records in their second year are equal, with Florida lucky enough that a team in front of them lost. We weren’t so lucky (thanks a lot, Michigan, not holding a fourth quarter lead). He hasn’t missed a bowl. He doesn’t cheat and cheating has never and will never been accused against him. He runs a clean program, and the “discipline” problems he faces are the kind of discipline problems Dooley used to be able to sweep under the rug. Blaming him for those are ludicrous. Also, unlike down at Gainesville, our players can’t get away with grand theft auto. Our city cops don’t look the other way. Gainesville city cops do.

Once again, to try and tear down what one coach is doing to prop up what one coach has done is ridiculous. And Vince Dooley would be the first to tell you “fans” that.

By Paula

February 12, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this

Do not change the name of the stadium!!!

By baloney

February 12, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this

I like the ButtSmear building. Also, there have been plenty of people to accomplish much more in a shorter period than VD that simply had a street around the campus named after them.

By Bob Sacamano

February 12, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

I WAS WRONG!!!

Dooley had been to 5 sUGAr Bowls. And he only won one of them!!! So, in actuality, you can tick off sUGAr Bowl wins as something Mark Richt has more of than Vince Dooley, SickandTired. Wally Butts has the other sUGAr Bowl win. I thought that the sUGAr Bowl matched up with the SEC Title always, but Alabama went to the sUGAr Bowl in ‘66-‘67, not us. That year we went to the Cotton Bowl. Regardless, Richt has more sUGAr Bowl wins in an era when only four bowls matter, and the sUGAr is one of them. Pretty cool. So explain again how what Mark Richt is doing at Georgia isn’t special? How it isn’t at least as good (if not better) as what Dooley did given the time allowed?

Once again, SickandTired… Serenity Now. Let go of your hate, for it is your undoing. Hate, caused by fear, leads to suffering. And that is the dark side. You don’t want to end up embittered and evil, like Darth Visor is, do you SickandTired? Serenity Now.

By W. B.

February 12, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

The Gaja Dawgs are too great to limit their playing field to the name of any one, coach or otherwise. Leave it alone. The home of the Bulldogs, long live.

By HotDawgette

February 12, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

I know Coach Dooley personally and anyone who says that he is not deserving of honor, has cheated, is mediocre at best or any other detracting comments is an idiot! He is one of the finest men I have ever known and he truly loves and cares for the University of Georgia, its fans and alumni and has been the driving force for years upon end for growth and advancement at UGA. He hired CMR and did so against the will of Adams. Michael Adams is a fraud, a hypocrite and I have no respect for him. You Tech people and ignorant UGA fans who don’t know the history and legacy that Coach Dooley has built at UGA need to do your research. I think that this monument to Coach Dooley’s achievements fully demonstates who he is as a man, a coach and as an AD. It combines his love for UGA, his tremendous leadership and his love of gardening into one monument. I hope that he is pleased with the honor despite Adams’ imprint on it. He deserves this and so much more!

By The Monk

February 12, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

Personally, I think the hyphenated stadium names are dorky and the “so-and-so field at so-and so-stadium on so-and so street” deals are even worse. Sometimes things that already have names should be left just as they are. I like Coach Dooley but to call this last naming a “disgrace” is just moronic.

By JesusHChrist

February 12, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

So this pathetic relic is all that remains of UGAY’s only National title? ha ha ha ha

By 'ol dawg

February 12, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

Gentlemen, Fighting among ourselves is not the point. Debate is good. You both have valid arguments, but both are flawed and swing in one direction. We, at this fine institution, have the honor of having two fine men of integrity. Two fine men who are/were very good football coaches. One served as AD, the other probably will someday. We are indeed fortunate. Let’s not lose sight of what we want or what we are doing. There is a way to honor more than one person at UGA. Thought, insight, recognition all go into just what should be done for this individual or the next. We’re all Georgia Bulldogs that care about our university. Let’s stop the petty “one upsmanship”, biased thinking, and come together to honor those that have made us proud! Mark Richt’s legacy is well on the road to reality. Vince Dooley’s legacy is history, and most honorable. I have seen it all. Wally Butts, who was called the father of the forward pass, did fairly well we thought, except toward the end. Thank goodness for Joel Eaves, his forsight, his integrity, his leadership, and his vast abilities. He most certainly should not be forgotten. Thank goodness also, for Vince Dooley and Mark Richt and for the job they have and are doing. We are a proud lot. Let’s all act like it and move forward in spite of Michael Adams, and continue to build on a broad foundation that exists because of two outstanding football coaches and men of character and integrity! Amen……

By Merkwurdigliebe

February 12, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

I think it is a fitting tribute to Vince Dooley. Anyone belittling Vince Dooley has issues requiring professional attention. Dooley won 6 SEC titles as HC, second only to Bear Bryant, won a NC in 1980 and headed an athletic department that won 17 National Championships. He was well respected around the country by other athletic professionals and his influence is well chronicled. A tribute is fitting and a garden in the appropriate place is a great way to pay homage to this legend.

By GADAWG47

February 12, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

The statue of Dooley should be in front of Sanford Stadium. Enough said.

By 7straight

February 12, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

Jordon-Hare Bryant-Denny Vaught-Hemingway It should be Sanford-Dooley and if Mike Adams wasn’t just a low-life classless jerk it already would be.

By Dawg Since Birth

February 12, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

Although a very good coach….have you ever really “met” the man? What a pompous a%#! Agree with above comment….above average coach overall…..if you really want the name of a GREAT coach attached to the stadium, wait until Richt retires! That WOULD be AWESOME!!!!!! Go Dawgs!

By Bob Sacamano

February 12, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

On that, we agree, HotDawgette. I think I’d be okay with adding his name to the stadium (as others here have said, he made it what it is today, the crown jewel of college sports, without the erector-set, miss-matched look of Neyland, The Horseshoe, or that orange pestilence in Gainesville. I also think putting his statue where it is honors him as an AD, as opposed to just a football coach, is fine by me. I think Bill forgets Dooley had a hand in many other sports besides football, and this brings him closer to the McGill tennis complex, the Steg, where all of those gymnasts win championship after championship, the Butts-Mehre Building, where all of our history is stored and the team builds its strength, not to mention the practice fields and Foley Field. I don’t have a problem with the location, as I think it celebrates the man who was more than a football coach.

But once again, HotDawgette, we cannot allow our personal biases to color our perception of history. To truly honor the measure of a man, we must remember the good and the bad, because a man is all of these things, and all of those things are the man. Dooley may have not cheated on the playing field, but he allowed students on to the team who had no business attending the University, even under the less strict rules of the past, and then made sure those players were “passing” their classes. The argument that every else did it doesn’t fly. You can honor a man, but you cannot nor should not forget his mistakes. To remember a man for his good as well as his bad is how you truly celebrate that man. To revere someone to the point where you find them spotless is not realistic, nor is it very healthy, from a mental standpoint.

By Terrible Truth

February 12, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

How ‘bout road improvements and an interchange named after Dooley so it doesn’t take two freakin’ hours to get out of town after a game?

By Florida Dawg

February 12, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

The stadium should be named Dooley-Sanford Stadium. Anything less is just not right. Whoever succeeds Adams will have it done.

By Left to Right

February 12, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

Dooley does not deserve his name on any stadium given the way he and Michael Adams used the basketball program following the Harrick scandal. Each man attempted to destroy the other at UGA by trying to pin the blame on the other. I am not a fan of Adams, but Dooley should know better. It was only the latest instance of Dooley putting himself ahead of the best interests of the university (Remember when he used the coaching offer from Auburn to get himself installed as AD-at a time when UGA was preparing to play in the Sugar Bowl for a national championship? He turned it down in part, he said, because he would not have been allowed to coach in the Sugar Bowl).

By Bob Sacamano

February 12, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

‘ol Dawg… that’s what I’m trying to get across to SickandTired. I’m not trying to play a game of one upsmanship. Dooley and Richt have just as much respect in my eyes, but it seems some on this board feel you can only like one (Dooley) and not the other (Richt). That doing so “betrays” Dooley’s memory or some such nonsense. I’m trying to use reasonable and logical arguments to show that what Coach Richt is accomplishing right now is at the very least on par with what Coach Dooley accomplished early in his career, if not better. But some people do not want to listen to reason or logic, because that would mean admitting that they are wrong.

Please do not let my defense of Richt mean that I respect Dooley any less, for this is exactly the kind of thinking I’m trying to correct. Both men can exist in the minds and hearts of Bulldog Nation with equal measure.

By Merkwurdigliebe

February 12, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this

Dawg Since Birth

Yes I’ve met Vince Dooley… in fact we both took classes in the same building. I use to see him everyday. He was incredibly friendly and always had a smile on his face. He was always polite and went out of his way to shake peoples hands. Your characterization doesn’t jive with my experience.

By sam

February 12, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

What if President Adams took a hike and never came back! UGA would be much better without his red face jerking all the strings….

By ccdawg

February 12, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Let’s face it without Herschel or Erk Russell, Dooley was an average coach. He averaged a little over 7 wins a year even with those two. His decisions as AD included Ray Goff (even if he won’t claim it he WAS one of Dooley’s boys) “Significant improvement” (wasted one more year under Goff) Glen Mason, Jim Donnan( hiring and NOT wanting to fire him), Ron Jirsa, Tubby Smith (No buyouy clause allowing UK to STEAL him) and hundreds of thousands of dollars for his garden and mansion in Athens. Not to mention the endless commercials he has done on the back of his UGA fame. Why should we rename the stadium for this. This Adams-Dooley feud is tired and worn out and Dooley keeps stoking the fire. Hey Dawg fans its time to let it go. Who cares about Dooley or Adams if we win championships! We need to focus on right now and enjoy Richt’s remarkable run. By the way, Richt should be the one in the future we rename the stadium for. What he’s done at UGA has DWARFED anything Dooley did.

By phil

February 12, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

Name it: Sanford/dooley/uga/Herschel/Hearst/Blue/Munson stadium

By Former Dawg

February 12, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

Dooley had his good points; but, he also had a lot, a whole lot, of bad points. In that, he is pretty much like everyone else. He is no saint, nor he is football genius. His best achievement was bringing together people who could get the job done. Any award to him should be tempered by the fact that with routinely weak schedules he did not win 70% of his games.

By Desert Dawg

February 12, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

Forget renaming the Stadium!!!

If you want to honor Vince, …….RENAME UGA……DOOLEY! PROBLEM SOLVED!

After all, he did try to make a few bucks selling “Dooley Dogs” and “Bulldog Punch” back in the late 60s.

Seriously, the proposed honor is more than appropriate. But the truth is, if not for H. Walker, we probably would not be having this dialog.

By Jeff

February 12, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

Amen brother…

By Bob Sacamano

February 12, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

And now the blog will devolve into shouting matches as members of the least common denominator gain control. This is why I left blogging on this site two years ago. This blog was so much better as a paid blog. Then we could keep out most of the riff-raff.

How disappointing.

By Randy

February 12, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

Bill,

You and your kind have been harping to get Dooley’s name on the stadium for years. The State House has tried to enact legislation to get this done. But yet, his name isn’t there.

Have you ever once thought that it isn’t Adams, but the vast majority of Bulldog alumni who don’t want to rename the stadium?

By RxDawg

February 12, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

Sigh, I hate this debate. Why do you want to name the stadium/field after dooley? Because Auburn or some other school did it!? Its BS. I love Dooley, and there are plenty of ways to honor him. I just dont want to clog up our stadium name. I like the way it sounds now.

By Mike

February 12, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

I am glad that UGA is honoring Coach Dooley with a monument and naming the athletic building after him. What I don’t like is the fact that President Adams has the power to say what, where, and how when it comes to honoring coach Dooley. Coach Dooley is loved and respected by so many people and President Adams can only dream of being thought of that way. The field in Sanford stadium should be named Dooley Feild and a monument should be placed outside of the stadium. Coach Dooley has done so much for the university that it is only fitting to honor the man that helped make UGA an elite school in this country.

By Dooley's Master Plan

February 12, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

This is no shock to me personally. Having his name on the stadium is what Dooley has been campaigning for since he got to Athens in 1964. I’ve lived in Athens my whole life, and I find it humorous that Dooley’s biggest supporters have never even met the man. People who know Dooley personally do not like him. And no, I’m not talking about having met him at a meet and greet somewhere. I’m talking about actually knowing how cheap, petty, and selfish the Dooley’s have been towards the Athens community since they’ve been there.

By Dooley's Master Plan

February 12, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

This is no shock to me personally. Having his name on the stadium is what Dooley has been campaigning for since he got to Athens in 1964. I’ve lived in Athens my whole life, and I find it humorous that Dooley’s biggest supporters have never even met the man. People who know Dooley personally do not like him. And no, I’m not talking about having met him at a meet and greet somewhere. I’m talking about actually knowing how cheap, petty, and selfish the Dooley’s have been towards the Athens community since they’ve been here.

By RomeDawg

February 12, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

Dooley’s Master Plan: You’re right. I’ve got family in Athens and they don’t have many nice things to say about Vince and Barbara. I hear they’re pretty much shake-down artists who aren’t even in the same stratosphere as the Richts regarding class and humility.

By ED

February 12, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

Dooley was only half of the equation. Erk Russell was the man. UGA would have won several NC’s if Erk had been the head coach.

By Dawgsig

February 12, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

Adams can KMA

By Dawgbyte

February 12, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

Vince brought the Dawgs from mediocrity to good to great. He had his “down” years as both a coach and an AD. But, these were more than compensated for by his good ones. AND he hired MR. He deserves more than they are giving him.

By Will

February 12, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

Michael Adams will be gone in a few years and then a proper memorial can take place relating to Coach Dooley.

President Adams’ supporters like to place the Dooley-Adams deal in terms of academics or the right and responsibility of a college president. President Adams has been either extremly naive or ignorant in his dealings with Coach Dooley or his ego is such that he knows exactly what he is doing and could care less what people think about his decisions because no one, certainly not a football coach, is as important as he is. President Adams has gone out of his way to anger a significant number of loyal UGA alumni when all this could have been avoided if he did not have such an ego.

I think it is somewhat of a generational thing with fans. If you were 57 years old like me you could remember when tech was a national power and UGA had a hard time filling seats. You also could remember the three years prior to Coach Dooley when a good and decent man, Johnny Griffiths, was head coach and won three games each of those years. You could remember the magic of the next year when UGA defeated Florida and tech and went to the Sun Bowl, the next year when UGA opened with a win over national chamption Alabama and then crossed the Mason-Dixon line (something UGA has not done over the last 43 years) and beat Michigan in Ann Arbor. You could remember the 1996 team that won the SEC, the Cotton Bowl, defeated an undefeated tech team and came within one point of a perfect season.

You could remember that all of this happened when Coach Dooley came to Athens and that is why, if you are a fan of University of Georgia football, you would revere Coach Dooley.

For me, those first three years bring back more important memories than the national championship year.

By MountainDawg

February 12, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Coach Dooley was one of the greatest football coaches in the history of the game, and the stadium or field needs to be named in his honor. Furthermore, Adams is a pompous, arrogant, self-important (wanna-be) Elitist who looks down his nose at us lowly & wretched “fans”.

By Dorsey Hill

February 12, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

To “Dooley Sucks” and the rest of the ignorant faux Bulldogs out there who don’t know their history:

When Dooley announced his retirement in 1988 a committee was formed to seek out a new head coach. Dooley was not a member of that committee as he publicly stated that he did not want to have a role in installing his replacement. Dooley did however make one recommendation to the committee: Erk Russell.

The committee headed by new UGA President Charles Knapp knew that they had to offer Erk the job or they would be taken out and hung, so they did it in such a way that they knew Erk would turn it down, which he did. After being turned down by Dick Sheridan of all people, and after not offering the job to Frank Beamer who wanted it, this band of morons, like “Dooley Sucks”, hired Ray Goff.

So it was Chuck Knapp and the rest of the idiots on the committee, who hired Goff not Dooley. It wasn’t Dooley who shunned Erk, its was Knapp. Dooley recommended Erk.

It drives me insane to hear stupid, ignorant UGA fans repeat this lie over and over again.

DOOLEY DID NOT HIRE RAY GOFF!!!!

He did fire him though.

By Thomas

February 12, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

I like how Georgia is Sanford Stadium…. im tired of all the Ben Hill Griffin, Jordan-Hare, Williams Brice,etc. I say keep it Sanford for all of eternity no matter who coaches or plays.

By SP

February 12, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

Coach Dooley won one (1) championship! That distinction in no way merits changing the name of our beloved stadium.

By rlinaug

February 12, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

Under Dooley’s reign, UGA rarely lost a game when it was favored and won a bunch of games what it was underdog. Dooley kept Florida on its back for more than two decades. UF never reached its full potential until Dooley left—even when UF cheated.

And don’t try to say Dooley is just mediocre without Herschel. You could make dumbass remarks like that about any dominant player. Dooley would have never won the SEC in 76 without Goff. Yeah, Pitt wouldn’t have won the NCAA that year without Dorsett. Comments like that are just stupid.

The fact is, Herschel played for coach Dooley. Take Herschel away, and you’re only talking hypothetical, not fact, and that’s just dumb. It takes a great coach to coach great players well. I mean, Dye never won a national title, even with Bo Jackson.

Dooley was great. He won 200 games in the toughest conference in the land—during Bear Bryant’s prime. What other coach won 6 SEC titles during that time?

Adams is a punk, isn’t he?

By Spike

February 12, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

I say nominate Vince as President of UGA and run Adams a$$ off. I will give no more donations as long as Adams is there. Vince Dooley IS UGA football!!

By Fed Up with UGA

February 12, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

Dooley won ugay’s only national championship on the back of a mentally retarded boy who had no business in college to begin with, and who to this day is functionally illiterate - His leadership led directly to the Jan-NCAA punishment of UGA for academic fraud…The death penality can still be imposed should uga repeat any of the crimes of the Dooley era…

By Wally B.

February 12, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

Dooley did not hire Richt or Harrick. Adams did that. Richt is a Bible-toating Jackie Sherrell, and he is going to be caught very soon in the same way that his counterpart, Harrick, was caught. Dooley ran a clean program, in comparison to FSU north.

By Bham Dawg

February 12, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

I like the Statue idea… Here is to hoping that in 25 years it will be Richt Field at Sanford Stadium… If the current pace keeps up, i tend to think it will.

By RomeDawg

February 12, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

Fed Up: Ok, Herschel says he has multiple personalities. How does that make him functionally illiterate again? He was valedictorian of his high school, so I would venture that he can read and write, and is not “retarded.” I would love to compare Herschel’s tax return with yours. Loser.

By Barbara Dooley

February 12, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

I want a statue too. After all it was me that “took care” of Herschel all those years. Vince got the credit, but it was me who did the “dirty” work.

Love, Barbara

By Hunk Erdown

February 12, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

I just don’t get it. So many people think that the cheapest alternative- naming the field Dooley field is the best honor. Others think that tacking his name onto the name of the Stadium, setting a precedent that would pave the way for others’ names to come, making it sound like a friggin law firm as new partners are added- Sanford, Dooley, Richt, Bobo, etc. Stadium (also a cheap way out)is best. If we were building a new field and stadium, I could understand it, call the new one Dooley stadium and never add to it. Actually, naming the field (as it is now) would be a “tack on”. UGA plays “between the hedges” at Sanford Stadium. Between the hedges has become a moniker in and of itself… now you want to dilute that by tacking on someone’s name, with no guarantee that he will be the last name added to it. Its not a slam at Coach Dooley to not name the stadium or field after him, its more of an honor to build him HIS OWN monument, and instead of putting it as a yard ornament for the stadium, give him his own reserved area, in front of the entire athletic complex, which we name for him. A place where people can go visit with the purpose of honoring his memory, not something you pause for on the way inside the stadium. They’re gonna spend in the neighborhood of a million dollars for something that will be a real tribute, that Coach Dooley doesn’t have to share with anyone (past, present, or future). A place that is so nice that people will want to go see for the express purpose of going to see the monument of and for a great man, and leader. Not something that they just visit “on the way” to somewhere else. Maybe they should put a bronze sign up in front of the stadium that has an imprint of the statue and tells where the real monument and park is for visitors to go see.

Why people can not see that it is so much better to have something that was made, unique in its construction, specifically to honor a great man than some tack on that will only cause this same argument to come up again someday when CMR’s days are winding down. Where I live there are bronze signs that describe civil war sites. UGA could put similar signs up all over the university grounds that have a likeness of the Dooley statue and give directions to where the Dooley Complex Park is in relation to where the sign is posted. But please don’t think that it is some kind of cop-out to spend a million dollars to give the man his own special and unique tribute when just tacking his name on to the stadium or field is the real cop-out.

By Texas Dawg

February 12, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

I can’t believe this. Vince Dooley is the most respected Football Coach in Georgia’s history. This is a crying shame. If it’s not at the stadium it should not be allowed.

By Bob Sacamano

February 12, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

Well written, Hunk Erdown. Well written and well said. Please set some of these people right, because the lunatic fringe have come out and are completely ruining what should be a joyous occasion. Especially with their outright fabrications and denigrations of what Coach Richt has been able to accomplish in a short time here.

By Knowdat

February 12, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

We need to build an indoor practice field and name it after Dooley.

By tdog

February 12, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

Bill you have got to be kidding. He gave us one championship oh how many years ago. No one should get accolades for a one year wonder. Put his name in the thank you book and lets try to make some lasting history where we are now. I don’t really need to see a Dooley statue reminding me of all the controversy he stirred up during his tenure. Let’s just hope Richt can keep the boys focused on football, instead of all his gimmicks.

By UGA V

February 12, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry, but Sanford Dooley sounds like a character on Amos n’ Andy.

By Bob Sacamano

February 12, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

And Dooley Sanford sound like one of Fred’s relatives. Maybe a long-lost son. Dummy Number 2, perhaps?

By MB

February 12, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

BuLLdawg,

I understand that you are as ignorant as the rest of your fanbase but please never compare Dooley to Bobby Dodd. National Coach of the Year is named after him for being a winner and having class. Something you obviously lack. I like Dooley and think he did a great deal for your program, so pipe down. Go name a park bench on Lumpkin after whatever coach you like and enjoy the fact that currently this is the most success your program has ever had.

By Gen Neyland

February 12, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Hunk

Even as an enemy blogger, I will continue to refer to it as Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium…Just sounds right…

By wallydawg

February 12, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

Dooley was a good football coach. Not a great one. Simple as that. And yes, if you take out the years he ran Herschel into the ground, he is mediocre at best. Better yet, if Erk had never been around, we aren’t even having this discussion. After ‘83, when all of Erk’s guys were finally gone, we were terrible on D, and remained terrible until Vince was gone. It became apparent Vince got lucky with Erk, and was unable to hire a quality coordinator after Erk left to establish unprecedented success at Southern. The ignorance on this board is truly astounding. I’m kind of glad Vince has been such a baby on his way out. He’s exposed who he truly is. A selfish, self-righteous, self-serving average football coach.

By Hunk Erdown

February 12, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

Sorry Bob, but this has little or nothing to do with Coach Richt.

Check this out though, adding something new, just for Coach Dooley opens the door for additional revenue, maybe for a Dooley Park Foundation. UGA does a great job of marketing “mascot type” products that raise money. What if there was a Dooley Park Foundation that had a deal that any prints, medallions with a likeness of the Dooley statue, minature statues, or anything to do with Dooley Park went towards building a new Arena or scholarships for atheletes that are offered scholarships and get injured, or scholarships for minorities, or whatever good cause the Foundation could come up with. Hell, Vince could spend the rest of his life autographing stuff from it. That is (like the park) something tangible, not just a token name that will be mentioned, “Good afternoon everyone, welcome to Sanford-Dooley-Richt-Bobo-Dewey-Cheatum and Howe Stadium, between the Hedges of Dooley-Russell-Searles-Richt field.”

You take your grandkids to a football game and they want to know who Sanford Dooley is…

And in case you feel that sales of the Vince Dooley Park memorabilia would some how “cheapen” it? Tell me you wouldn’t want to have a nice big print of the Vince Dooley walls of honor surrounding a statue of the 1980 scene of players carrying Dooley off the field after the NC, framed and hanging in your den next to the print of Sanford Stadium, entitled “Between the Hedges”. I’ve got my “Between the Hedges” print already hanging, and it says “Sanford Stadium” at the top, not “Sanford, Dooley, fill in the blank Stadium”.

By Dennis

February 12, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

Dooley put the sMehrer in the Butts, with all of the probations, so, he deserves all the crap from this site that is flung his way.

By Hunk Erdown

February 12, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

That’s right, people will make fun of “Sanford Dooley”, kind of like how some people call Butts Mehre, Buttsmear… real funny, huh.

By ck

February 12, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

Before all is said and done…CMR will have a record that makes Dooley look average. Reserve the Field name for Butts-Richt Field. Dooley was good and longterm but never was he great. This comes from long time Dawg fan who spent alot of years watching the dawgs.

By DawgieStyle

February 12, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Dooley is history, and good riddance. Herschel Walker MADE vince dooley. Dooley was a lying, cheating coach who cared nothing about his players, unlike Mark Richt.

By Dawgstyle

February 12, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Ok…. why don’t we have a bust of every UGA head football coach placed somewhere outside Sanford stadium honoring them all. We could name it UGAs hall of coaches at Sanford Stadium. The tradition continues!

By Pitbull

February 12, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

I was sitting on the toilet taking a “Michael Adams” when I read this article. My suggestion is that the honor voted by the athletic association is nice and appropriate.

It should suffice. Leave the name Sanford Stadium alone so that in 25 years we can rename it Sanford-Richt Stadium after MR gets his 300th win.

By Knowdat

February 12, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

Here’s an idea, lets rename the stadium Jim Beam field at Trojan Condom Stadium. Why are we even condidering changing the name of Sanford. All of these stupid sounding combos like Oriole Park at Camden Yards or Bobby Bowden Field at Doak Walker Stadium sound so pretentous and Nouvo Riche. Georgia is fortunate to have a storied, rich tradition so why start changing the names of things. We don’t want to end up like Tennessee with Phil Fulmer Way, Peyton Manning Pass, and Chemeka Holdsclaw Blvd. On a side note, some idiot I met, I think he was a S. Carolina fan, asked if Lumpkin St. was named after Kregg.

By houstoncountydog

February 12, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

It seems to be that the people sooooo upset about the stadium not havnig Dooley’s name on it are the same ones who dno’t know the guy. Apparently several folks on here do know him, and aren’t very complimentary. In contrast, EVERYONE who knows the Richts can vouch for them. Let’s wait and name the stadium after Richt. he didn’t need a freak of nature tailback to ride the coattails on. Richt has had more sustained success in a MUCH tougher SEC than the one Dooley coached in.

By 'ol dawg

February 12, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

To the so-called Athenians who slander and critisize: I have known Vince Dooley since he first arrived in Athens. I am not his best friend, but have been extremely close to the athletic department at one time, all Dooley years and Eaves years. The integrity and class these two gentlemen brought to UGA is exceptional, as well as a revision of the program. Those of you who want to spew venom, talk about something of which you have no knowledge of and in a word, degrade someone, are worthless. Worthless! What a sorry excuse for a human being you are, and if you really are Dawg fans, I am sorry that you are. Vince Dooley is one of the most highly respected members of college athletics, past and present. You little people. How many of you would stand in front of real Dawg fans, and spew this kind of venom. I thought so………gutless. Some day someone will find you for some reason and make you pay for your lousy feeling of self-worth. The immaturity you show, the hatred you feel and your ignorance is very apparent. You are not true Bulldogs when you have to run someone else down to make yourself feel better. You are simply, losers.

By toemeetsleather

February 12, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

i really think it should be the harbin red lawson statue or NIT hugh durham!!!!!!!!!!!wreck rules!!

By RomeDawg

February 12, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

Ol Dawg: I’m calling bull$hit on you. You are probably another south georgia idiot who has never met Dooley except at a photo-op. If you really knew the Dooley’s, you wouldn’t be saying these things. And since you are so “close” to the athletic program, tell me this: How do you explain the backward slide we went in after ‘83? Donnan was fired for seasons that were better than the ones Dooley mailed in. You, sir, are the idiot. And I’ll betcha a dollar I’ll whip your arse.

By Dawgy

February 12, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

Let’s leave tradition intact. To change the name of a stadium after 80 years to a (good but not great) coach whose success came 25 years ago sets a standard that is too low for us. Also, I respectfully disagree about Dooley’s contribution to football as an AD, and that Adams was right about replacing him. Sometimes you need youth and change that Damon Evans is amply demonstrating right now.

By Steve

February 12, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

Don’t name the stadium after Dooley—he was a “legend in his own mind.” Remember his mercenary days when he threatened to go back to Auburn? I was hoping he would! Any idiot (except for Ray Goof) could be a winner recruiting and coaching at UGA… Plus, I HATE hyphenated names. I happen to like Michael Adams—he actually stands up to be counted on issues and he’s usually right…

By Steve

February 12, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

Vince Dooley would have been a big loser if it hadn’t been for a guy named Herschel Walker. Otherwise, the guy just played the Bulldog Nation and the State of Georgia for chumps as he politiced for the coaching job at Auburn and initmated he would better serve the masses as a Governor or Senator. Whew!

By Fed Up with UGA

February 12, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

How about the “Dawnie Drolling Dooley Stadium.” Slobbering Swine

By Barnes is a Crookie tooie

February 12, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

The should call the stadium the dooley flea farm.

By Steve Spurrier

February 12, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

Wait until I beat Coach Richt a few more times before you make a decision between Richt and Dooley’s statues. I’m thinking after spurring Richt a few more times that the Dooley statue will win out. I know how you bandwagon mutts love to kick your coach.

Love,

Steve

By D Gelbart

February 12, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

Fed Up With Georgia- Georgia Tech

Ramble On- What are you talking about? Dooley was the one who hired Richt so you are just a Tech fan that is delusional because Tech hasn’t beaten Georgia in eternity.

If you want to rename the stadium why not rename it Walker-Dooley-Sanford Stadium? That is because without Walker, Dooley is just above average. Keep the regular name!!

By ZMan

February 12, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

He’s Overated:

I’m not certain where the “7 wins a year coach” comment comes from? Coaching in an era with roughly 10 regular season games per year instead of 12, no SEC championship, and far fewer bowls than today, Dooley’s teams averaged close to 8 REGULAR SEASON wins per year. Translated into todays terms, that figure closes to about 10 wins per year based on 12 games, an occassional SEC championship victory and a 50/50 record in annual bowls. How does that make Dooley mediocre?

By KJ

February 12, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

How about the “Dawnie Drolling Dooley Stadium.”

How about the “Fed Up Can’t Spell Worth a Sh!t” memorial message board?

By reserviorDAWG

February 12, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

ZMan please do not bring logic and research onto these boards. It is too much for the DAWG haters to handle.

By heeldawg

February 12, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

Good Lord, what a controversy.

Might as well throw my two cents’s worth in.

For those who say that Dooley was an “average coach,’ you’re simply not paying attention to the facts. In an era in which there was no SEC Championship Game, when the average regular season was 10 (not eleven) games, and when bowl games were much harder to come by, Vince won over 70% of his games (201 overall over 25 years), six SEC titles, a national title, and dominated the likes of Clemson, Florida and Georgia Tech. He beat Bear Bryant’s Alabama teams, beat Michigan at Michigan, and ran Bobby Dodd out of coaching forever. He played in 20 bowl games in 25 years and had only one losing season. Moreover, he did what he did with class and elegance. Contrary to the ignorant comments made by some posters above, Vince was NOT a cheater; his program was consistently clean and above-board. Any NCAA violations against Georgia during his tenure were minor ones which were invariably committed by overzealous boosters without Coach Dooley’s knowledge or consent (note that he served as the Chairman of the NCAA Ethics committee for years—a position he was elected to by his coaching peers).

As an AD, Dooley built the UGA athletic department into a national powerhouse in multiple mens’ and womens’ sports. Far from being a one-dimensional, football-centric coach, he focused his energies on things as diverse as womens’ basketball, gymnastics, softball, tennis, swimming and diving and equestrian events, winning SEC and national titles galore along the way. It was Dooley who hired Mark Richt. It was Dooley who Richt asked to stay on for a few years while he got the lay of the land at U.Ga. Without Dooley, Georgia football would be languishing in the doldrums with the Mississippi States and South Carolinas of the world. Any success that Mark Richt has attained in Athens has come because he has been standing upon the shoulders of giants. And Vince Dooley, as far as Georgia athletics is concerned, is the biggest giant of them all.

Mark Richt would be the first to tell you that.

Shame on anyone who thinks otherwise.

By RomeDawg

February 12, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

HeelDawg: Shame on me then. And to think that we would be State or South Carolina without Dooley might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. We had one two national titles (1927 and 1942) and could probably claim a third in 1946 BEFORE Dooley got here. Johnny Griffith was a bad coach, very true. Dooley was afforded the luxury of not having to follow a legend which was fortunate. But a lot of your comments? Jesus. The resources in Georgia are 100 times more advantageous than at State or Carolina. Fact is, Dooley underachieved with the resources he was afforded. Let me guess, you didn’t go to Georgia, right? Can you even name a building on campus?

By RomeDawg

February 12, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

Also, I’d like for you to provide a breakdown of the coaches that Dooley hired regarding the sports he “focused his energies on.” Dan Magill built Georgia Tennis. Not Vince Dooley. Jack Bauerle built the swimming program. Not Vince Dooley. Andy Landers built women’s basketball. Not Vince Dooley. I could go on. And I will. Dooley wanted to keep Jim Donnan. Adams (Thank GOD) went over his head, fired Donnan, thereby enabling Dooley to hire Richt. Dooley didn’t want anyone coming in who would show him up. Thank God Richt has.

By heeldawg

February 12, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

Oh, and one last thing:

For “Fed Up,” you need to take your ill-informed, cowardly garbage elsewhere. You denigrate Dooley by calling him average, and that’s bad enough. But then you debase Herschel by calling the high school valedictorian and dual-degree college graduate “functionally illiterate” and “retarded.” Not only are you inaccurate, but you clearly have a chip on your own shoulder that you are hoping to knock off by tearing down two of the most iconographic figures in the history of the SEC.

Herschel won the Heisman, the Walter Camp Player of the Year Award, the Doak Walker Award, and was the #2 College Football Player of ALL TIME according to the Associated Press. He never drank or did drugs, has never been arrested for anything, was never a cheater in any arena, and is to this day a fine role model for young people looking to live a virtuous life. He has two college degrees and is a multimillionaire, donating 10% of his company’s annual profits to the United Negro College Fund. He gave the University of Georgia Libraries $2 million a few years back.

(Moreover, I’ll bet he can spell “illiterate,” something you apparently cannot do.)

What have you done with your life?

I can see why you’re frustrated with the comparisons, but your inferiority complex is not our problem. Please take your frustrations out in some other fashion. Go punch a pillow. Drink some purple Kool-Aid. Whatever. But take your garbage elsewhere.

By DawgieStyle

February 12, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

ol’ dawg,

P-U-H-L-E-A-S-E!

By Herschel Talker

February 12, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

Heeldawg - I agree with Rome. Those were some pretty ridiculous comments from you. MSU and SCU we aren’t because of Dooley? Please.

By Herschel Talker

February 12, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

Bill King is a lowlife. And ugly to boot.

By Mikey

February 12, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

Vince deserves more, but in his humble way he will never admit it. That’s why we have to.

Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium

By Bandwagon Fan

February 12, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

Put Dooley and Adams in a boxing ring and let the ole ball coach ref. The winner …of course … gets his Bronze statue to be placed anywhere on the campus as they desire.

By Overrated x2

February 12, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

I also agree with overrated.

People like ZMan are part of the problem. They’re zeolots, far-wing lunatics, radicals, etc.

Let’s leave the Field Name available for someone who actually takes Georgia football to great places. I would call that multiple SEC Championships, multiple National Championship and 10-15+ years of top 10 rankings.

Dooley rode 1980 for years. This is a ridiculous discussion.

By heeldawg

February 12, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

RomeDawg:

To clarify your most offensive point: UGa, B.S. Zoology, Class of 1984, First Honor Graduate, Summa cum laude. Lived in Myers Dorm freshman year. I’m not going humor you by naming a bunch of buildings, but my name is on a plaque in the Tate Student Center. Perhaps you want my social security number?

Okay, now that we’ve got that bit of unpleasantness out of the way, I think we can both agree that the state of Georgia football in the Johnny Griffith years was abysmal. Even the last years of the Butts era were mediocre at best. We were a has-been program, overshadowed in our own state by Bobby Dodd and Georgia Tech. True, we had won national titles of a sort in the past (primarily via the likes of Frankie Sinkwich and Charley Trippi), but we were not even contenders in the SEC, much less nationally. Dooley came in and beat Bear Bryant in his second year, then beat Michigan in the Big House, and we were back on the map again. I don’t think anyone can dispute the notion that six SEC titles under Dooley were significant. You may recall that Florida had NEVER won an SEC title before Spurrier. He was their catalyst. In a similar fashion, Dooley allowed us the kind of attention that made us contenders again. What if a different coach had come along, another Johnny Griffith? Is it that far-fetched to think that Dodd’s Tech teams would have continued to dominate Georgia, and that they would have been the beneficiaries of the state’s recruting largesse, instead of the Bulldogs? Who knows how history would have played out? The bottom line is that history is history. Dooley won, started a legacy, and Mark Richt is building something special on the foundation of that legacy. And while I am a huge Mark Richt fan, I do not discount the importance of the Dooley years to Georgia football.

Now, about your other comments—what made you think I didn’t attend Georgia? Was it the fact that I didn’t agree with your position? Or do facts in general bother you?

Hell, you’re probably a relative of mine. Every time I get into an argument on this blog with someone it ends up being a cousin or something…

By tressel sitter

February 12, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

Mikey, Dooley humble?? Wow. LMAO. It’s obvious you don’t know him. He’s been campaigning to have his name on the stadium for years. Why do you think he had Rep. Ehrhart wage that whole ridiculous campaign two sessions ago? Come up with another one, you’ve really got me laughing now…

By EmmettDawg

February 12, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this

I think that Dooley has been slighted and honored at the same time. I’m in no rush to rename the stadium just yet, however. If the next decade or so plays out the way I think it will, what we should be discussing is what sounds better?

Dooley field at Richt-Sanford Stadium

Dooley field at Sanford-Richt Stadium

Richt field at Dooley-Sanford Stadium

Richt field at Sanford-Dooley Stadium

Personally, I’d go with either the first or the last option. The first if Richt does what I think he might do before he’s done, which is to win multiple national titles. Also, does anyone think it makes a difference whether your name is on the stadium or the field?

By Bulldyke Bill

February 12, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

Dooley got what we all get from society used abused and put out to pasture. Let this be a wake up call, quit your s** jobs leave your ugly wives and get with bill the bulldyke Might as well enjoy the ride cause father time is sneaking up and he thinks you look good yesterday’s memory tossed aside like beau bock’s hairweave

By RomeDawg

February 12, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

Heel: I don’t think I’m your cousin, and I apologize for the comments. It just seems everytime I get into this conversation and the person is a zealous Dooleyite, that person is usually from Albany, GA, and has never even been to Athens, much less gone to school there. Sorry for the assumption.

By heeldawg

February 12, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

Rome:

Concede the points on Magill, Landers and Bauerle. Magill, in particular, was a true legend, and made the Men’s Tennis program the powerhouse it is today. Manny Diaz is his living extension.

My point was that Dooley, as AD, could have been “football-centric,” but was not. He emphatically supported those other more minor sports. He also hired Liz Murphey for womens’ golf, oversaw the startup of the gymnastics and equestrian programs, and set the stage for the outstanding things that are happening on Damon Evans’ watch today (note also that Damon Evans was Dooley’s protege, and his hand-picked successor).

BTW, I agree with you—and disagreed with Vince—on Donnan. There were problems with the program that ran too deep to fix without a head coaching change back then. He had to go; the right call was made on that one.

Finally, back to the previous post (I’m getting hand cramps here), the resources in Georgia were not 100 times better than at MSU or SCU in 1963. The exponential growth of Atlanta fueled a lot of the growth of Georgia during that era. With Dodd at Tech and a lesser coach in Athens to follow Griffith, who knows what might have happened? Again, look at Florida—in one of the best recruiting states in the country, they managed to underachieve for 75 years until Spurrier came in and woke them up. Just being in Georgia is no guarantee of greatness.

By EmmettDawg

February 12, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

I don’t want anyone to think I’m a Dooley hater, and I was two years old in 1980. But consider this fact. In his 24 years as UGA coach, Dooley was .500 or worse four times—or 1 in 6 seasons. Richt has seven on the books, and his worst was in his very first (at 8-4, no less).

By RomeDawg

February 12, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

Heel: You make good points, some I didn’t think of. Also, isn’t it ironic how Dooley laid the groundwork for Youclan…and then she moves in with Leebern (the tail that wags the Adams). Talk with you later…

By If anyone is a idiot, it is me.

February 12, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this

I talked with Coach Dooley a number of times over the years in various settings. Let me get this straight, He didn’t know me from Adam’s House Cat. He was always very polite and answered several pointed questions. This was not at UGA functions or Social gatherings(I didn’t qualify for those). I always had my work clothes on and have never made over $35,000 in a year. Yeah, I finished High School and that was it. Never could afford to go to many games over the years and still can’t. But I have followed the Bulldogs since childhood and all I have been able to offer them was moral support. I have tried to further my education through reading and have learned a lot. I managed to put my Wife(started when She was 33) and two Children thru UGA. My point is, that if Vince Dooley ever had a chance to ignore or look down his nose at someone, it was me. He didn’t. I can assure you that I have listened to a lot more games on radio than I have I I have ever seen, even on TV, as I work practically every Saturday. Coach Dooley deserves the highest of honors from UGA.

By Rusty

February 12, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this

When are they going to get rid of this Michael Adams? How did he get the job?

By P Dawg

February 12, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this

Just put the legends damn name on the field and give him the respect he deserves for crying out loud! He only won us a national champonship in football and presided over many more in other sports as AD. It should be Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium with his statue by or in it for all to see!

By the ritz blitz

February 12, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

Adams Is an a_ _ _ _ _ e. You get my drift…

By Hamp McWhorter

February 12, 2008 7:17 PM | Link to this

I must admit I am stunned by some of ignorant and hateful responses toward Coach Dooley (and, in some cases, Mrs. Dooley). To set the record straight, I have worked for Coach Dooley and have known him my entire life. No one has represented the University of Georgia or intercollegiate athletics any better than Vince Dooley. He has received every major award from his peers in coaching and his peers in athletic administration. He has given tirelessly of himself for various charities and has given well over a million dollars of his own money to the University.

As far as his coaching record goes, the University of Georgia was the definition of mediocrity when he came to Georgia. Before his first season in 1964, Georgia’s all-time SEC record was exactly .500. Vince Dooley’s SEC record was 64 games above .500 in his 25 years. Furthermore, since Vince Dooley’s arrival, Georgia’s SEC record is 95 games above .500.

Upon his retirement from coaching in ‘88, his 20 bowl appearances ranked second all-time to Bear Bryant. Only Bryant has won more SEC championships than Dooley…Bryant is the only SEC coach to have won more games than Coach Dooley…No SEC coach has produced more National Scholastic Award winners…Second youngest coach to reach 200 wins behind Pop Warner.

While I agree that Erk Russell is one of the finest coaches ever, but if he were the real reason Coach Dooley was successful, why did Coach Dooley have a higher winning % without Coach Russell?

As far as Bobby Dodd goes, there is no comparison. In 22 years, Bobby Dodd won 2 SEC championships. It took Vince Dooley 5 years to equal that mark. Vince Dooley was 3-0 against Bobby Dodd. Furthermore, Vince Dooley didn’t single-handedly destroy an athletic department like Bobby Dodd did to Georgia Tech when he pulled out of the SEC.

While one can differ on how to honor Coach Dooley’s 40 years of service to the University (personally, I think he did far more for Georgia football than Dr. Sanford and believe it should be renamed Dooley-Sanford), it is absolutely preposterous for Georgia people to come on this board and denigrate someone of Coach Dooley’s status.

I am proud to know him, am proud to have worked for him, and proud to call him a friend. He is a gentleman and a scholar, and the University of Georgia is a far better place because of Vince Dooley.

By Dawgstyle

February 12, 2008 7:21 PM | Link to this

I think Adams is a plant from Tech. Snob University AKA North Ave. Trade School! Adams has already made Uga Look like a bunch of whiners after the BCS crown was won by LSU. Its time for him to leave! “Persona non Grata”

By Dark Corner Dawg

February 12, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this

Vince Dooley’s record speaks for itself. Whether some folks who want to make an argument about who coached before ,after or alongside him doesn’t really matter. Dooley is and always will be and icon in the SEC and in Georgia Football. IMO I think that the Sanford Stadium should keep its traditional name. Dr. Sanford was instrumental in having the stadium built and unlike Adams, Dr. Sanford was a true friend to Georgia Athletics. Dooley should be honored with a Statue at the Stadium because its simply the right thing to do.

By Tom

February 12, 2008 7:56 PM | Link to this

Fitting?….

How about the “NCAA Infractions Committee - Dooley Annex”?

By AltamahaDawg

February 12, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this

Is it all all possible that some folks believe that a stadium name change would be appropriate and this IS STILL a fine tribute as well? Is it embarassing, is it ugly or crude? It seems pretty chicken crap of anyone to belittle this or any tribute to Coach Dooley, and rob him of the honor, simply because its not what THEY want.

By War Eagle

February 12, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this

Dooley Master Plan, Coach Bryant once stated, find me a coach everybody likes, I will beat him every time. Its not the personality of a coach.Coach Dooley deserves to be in the likes of Bryant, Jordan, Neyland, Dodd and Vaught. Other deserving coaches will come, but now its Coach Dooley..

By Bill King

February 12, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this

My name is Bill King. I got this goofy looking UGA shirt at Wal-Mart. It wasn’t even on sale.

I am pro-incest.

Yours,

Bill

By These Nuts

February 12, 2008 9:31 PM | Link to this

How bout a statue of Vince Dooley doing it doggie style with Jan Kemp?

By Tom

February 12, 2008 9:44 PM | Link to this

Some of the comments made by officials back then to justify the cheating to keep athletes eligible remain astounding, even today. After Kemp sued the university for firing her, defense attorney Hale Almand described for the jury the typical Georgia football player. “We may not make a university student out of him,” he said, “but if we can teach him to read and write, maybe he can work at the post office rather than as a garbage man when he gets through with his athletic career.”

By AltamahaDawg

February 12, 2008 10:01 PM | Link to this

War Eagle, that practise of naming stadium over coaches died 30 yrs ago. Back when the Alabama legislature renamed those fields, it was a different time and coaching was a different situation than today. If it didnt happen 20 yrs ago, Its not gonna happen. Dr. Sanford’s story is quite unique. The name has a differnt meaning than some of those other stadiums who were honoring great coaches who later had huge impacts on the program. The man literally built this thing.

By Mike

February 12, 2008 10:23 PM | Link to this

It’s only appropriate to honor our own King Arrogant I, Mr Adams, in an fashion befitting him. I’ve got it: the Michael Adams Grease Trap located out back behind the Varsity. That’s what you are Adams - a pile of greasy sludge. Vince did more for UGA than you could ever imagine, other than the day you get lost.

By heeldawg

February 12, 2008 11:35 PM | Link to this

Well said, Mr. McWhorter!!

By Dave

February 12, 2008 11:36 PM | Link to this

SIMPLE SOLUTION: NAME THE HEDGES AFTER VINCE DOOLEY, “DOOLEY’S HEDGES”.

By BeachGaBulldog

February 12, 2008 11:59 PM | Link to this

I think it should be called Sanford-Dooley Stadium. Hey Michael Adams——GO F* YOURSELF!

By ............................................BuLLdawg

February 13, 2008 3:03 AM | Link to this

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Well, there are several facts everyone agrees on. Michael F. Adam$ has not done for Georgia what the Hope Scholarship alone, instead, has in keeping our best students in-state.

As a football coach Vince Dooley was 201-77-10 for a 71 and a half percent winning percentage, and an average of 8-3 for 25 years including 3 times named NATIONAL CHAMPIONS 1968 Litkenhous Rankings, 1966 Kenneth Massey Rankings, and 1980 nearly every Ranking including Final AP Poll No. 1 - something Georgia Tech has NEVER accomplished.

And, that as an Athletics Director for Georgia, Vince Dooley won 17 National Championships in many different sports, including Baseball whose coaches he hired for us, men’s and women’s tennis many times each whose coaches he hired, women’s swimming and diving whose coaches he hired for us, women’s gymnastics whose coach he hired for us, and men’s and women’s golf many times each whose coaches he hired for us. He led The SEC with not only his 80 SEC Championships in all sports as either our coach or athletics director, but also was the No. 1 Athletics Department in The SEC 3 of his final 6 years in the Directors’ Cup which honored him every year ranked No. 6 or better nationally as an athletic department.

By ............................................BuLLdawg

February 13, 2008 3:06 AM | Link to this

There is no doubt that Vince Dooley hired Mark Richt. He hired Andy Landers. He hired Jim Donnan who was 40-19 as our football coach, won 5 consecutive bowl games as our coach, and from 1997 to 2000 was ranked in the Final AP Poll 4 consecutive years - which NOW, thanks to Coach Richt is 11 Consecutive Years running that Georgia is ranked in the Final AP Polls. No other football program has accomplished this feat today of being ranked 11 consecutive years in the final AP Polls with Georgia thanks to the hiring in football of Jim Donnan and now Coach Richt.

As a football coach, Coach Richt in 7 seasons has averaged winning more games and losing fewer games than Vince Dooley in 25 years. Vince was 11th best in the nation and Coach Richt is 6th best in the nation over their periods of success in wins in football. Wally Butts was 7th best at wins during his tenure 1939-1960.

What Sanford Stadium was when Vince Dooley took over at Georgia, is not what Vince Dooley left our stadium looking like.

Vince Dooley donated $ 3.1 million dollars to Georgia for our Chemistry Building and Libraries.

By ............................................BuLLdawg

February 13, 2008 3:08 AM | Link to this

You honor a person for what they have done, not for what they are going to do. And, certainly not for what the Hope Scholarship, instead, has done.

The Georgia Institute of Technology has been on Probation by the NCAA for Major Infractions Database twice (2 times) in 1989 men’s tennis and most recently including losing 6 scholarships from its football team 2007-2008 at 79 scholarships instead of 85 for academic cheating.

Wally Butts recruited very good football players to Georgia such as Charlie Trippi, Frank Sinkwich, Fran Tarkenton, and Johnny Rauch. Vince Dooley recruited Herschel Walker, Kevin Butler, Terry Hoage, Bill Stanfill, and Scott Woerner. What Coach Richt has done in averaging a Top 5 recruiting class in both Scout.com and Rivals every season is absolutely better than both Wally Butts and Vince Dooley. Coach Richt’s success is better at 6th in the nation in wins to 7th for Wally Butts and 11th for Vince Dooley.

By ............................................BuLLdawg

February 13, 2008 3:10 AM | Link to this

This honor of naming something at our stadium for Vince Dooley, which Michael F. Adam$ is against, will not happen as long as our tiny dictator remains in charge of our multi billion dollar annual budget he wastes daily and has been caught wasting and made to repay to us. Michael F. Adam$ wishes he had accomplished something at Centre College in Kentucky with 1,100 students the lone place he was president before this gig here he has, or here at UGA - not the Hope Scholarship - is why he refuses to have anything to do with naming anything for Vince Dooley at our stadium. Vince Dooley deserves this - not just for football - but as our Athletics Director and his millions in donations to UGA along with his 41 years’ service (Michael F. Adam$ will never achieve at UGA.) Vince Dooley is far better history lesson for Georgia than at Georgia Tech, Bobby Dodd.

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By FBdawg

February 13, 2008 7:32 AM | Link to this

Naming an athletic complex after Vince IS an honor. What is disgraceful is some of the ideas about renaming the stadium or giving it a hyphenated name. I don’t think its ever appropriate to remove or add a name to a facility just out of respect for the guy that they initially named it after. Remember when Shirley Frankilin changed the name of the airport? Yea, that was stupid too and I’m sure a lot of you were the ones that complained about it. Vince Dooley is a legend and he deserves to be honored and what a better way to honor him than to name the nice, new athletic complex after him rather than making him share a name with the stadium.

By t

February 13, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this

I think they should rename it Bobby Dodd, Bud Carson, Bill Fulcher, Pepper Rogers, Bill Curry, Bobby Ross Stadium after the Tech coaches Dooley buried during his tenure.

By ............................................BuLLdawg

February 13, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

I have a very small penis. Very small.

By Reality Check

February 13, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

Dooley buried Bobby Ross so bad he won a national championship in 1990 before coaching in the NFL. As idiotic as “t” sounds, I’d wager he’s still a smarter trailer park alumni than ….BuLLdawg.

By Whitegoat

February 13, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

Soulja-boy field @Dooley/Sanford. Fear the Gamecock crow!! Bleat me.

By djsthegreatestdawgofalltime

February 13, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Dooley made being MEDIOCRE accpetable.

By pvb

February 13, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

LEAVE THE NAME OF THE STADIUM ALONE!!! Dooley was a good coach, and a mediocre athletic director.

By Feardaeagle

February 13, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

Name the bathrooms at Sanford stadium after Dooley. Vince Dooley’s name wouldnt even be remembered had it not been for ERK RUSSELL.ERK made dooley’s reputation as a winning coach!If you doubt that,ask former players,and check dooleys record after Erk left. Dooley is an egotistical,arrogant,smug,fake liar!

By Bill King

February 13, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

Do you like how I try and act like I’ve been a lifelong fan of UGA and that I actually went to school there?

God, I’m pathetic.

By C.J.

February 13, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

Adams as a president > Dooley as a coach

By ac

February 13, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

I think the decision was correct and for those of you that think Dooley hired Coach Richt, you are sadly mistaken. As I remember it was only after Pres. Adams’ insistance that Coach Richt was hired as the coach. Dooley at the time was against. You pro-Dooley people need to check you facts on that one. Dooley got what he deserved.

By Lane

February 13, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

Agree with Feardaeagle, Erk was the guy who made the program successful, Dooley was much to conservative on offense. LET’S NEVER FORGET ERK!!!

Adams was responsible for getting rid of Donnan, not sure who pulled the trigger to hire MR, probably Adams, pushing Dooley.

Adams, is responsible for Harick and the Harrick Hangover.

Dooley, responsible for GOOF, now that is quality judgment. However, Donald “The Thug” Leeburn(?), was a Goof supporter.

CMR, will do more for UGA, than Dooley ever dreamed.

NEVER FORGET ABOUT ERK - THE BALD CRAZY GUY - GREAT MOTIVATOR.

ERK SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE HEAD COACH AT GEORGIA!!!

By JD

February 13, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

I’m not a UGA guy, but why would the university not put anything that honors Dooley on the grounds of the stadium.

I guess it would make sense if UGA has an ego-maniacal president who has the class of a rabid wharf rat.

When is Michael Adams going to concede Vince Dooley means more to UGA than he ever will?

By Hamp McWhorter

February 13, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

I love Erk Russell just like all Dog fans, but Coach Dooley had a higher winning % after Russell left than when Coach Russell was there.

64-80 69.27% 81-88 76.04%

By Old Dawg Class of '60

February 13, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

When Wally Butts left Georgia the football program was in the red and Sanford Stadium was almost empty. Not only did Vince turn the program around he also filled Sanford Stadium to capacity and because of him we now seat approximately 93,000. Michael Adams should not have a say in anything that the Alumni and Georgia fans want to do in honoring Dooley. If you choose not to like Dooley that’s your business but for the group of us who want to honor him we should be allowed to do so(without permission from ADAMS - who cares about ADAMS and what he thinks?)by naming it Sanford Stadium - Dooley field.

I, myself and others who make contributions and buy tickets for Georgia Football are the ones who care about the name change. (Adams and others like him will come and go) but Dooley and Georgia Football are Forever - AMEN!

MAKE THE CHANGE NOW!

By Michael Adams is disgusting...

February 13, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

…but delusional fans have elevated Dooley WAY HIGHER than he should be. I’m glad we’re not naming the stadium or field after him.

I just wish we would start calling our stadium “The Junkyard.” Like Florida has nicknamed it’s stadium “The Swamp.”

By ............................................BuLLdawg

February 13, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this

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Log in as yourself, you losers.

Why do the Georgia Tech fans (both of them) care what Georgia alumni and Georgia Football players want our Stadium or its field, named ?

You see fit to name, both Tech fans, your football stadium GRANT FIELD here where the War of Northern Aggression saw Grant burn our city, rape our women and pillage our heritage as the Commander in Chief of the Union Army. You call your football stadium, Bobby Dodd Field, naming it after a college drop-out from the University of Tennessee at ObKnoxiousville.

You see to call that hell hole of a big tet downtown Bobby Cremins when it was called Alexander Memorial Coliseum before, when you ran Bobby Cremins out of town on a rail, firing his butt.

And, you nerds have a problem, post after post in every Bulldog blog about what we call our Stadium or its Football Field.

Did I mention that UGA Football Players 2007-2008 have a HIGHER APR than Georgia Tech in Football, according to the NCAA ?

Amazing. Stick to your North Avenue trade-school and leave Vince Dooley alone who always beat and NEVER lost, not one time to Bobby Dodd.

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By Dawgmeister

February 13, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this

Since Alabama has Bryant-Denny Stadium, Auburn has Jordan-Hare Stadium and Ole Miss has Vaught-Hemingway Stadium. There is no reason why UGA shouldn’t add Coach Dooley’s name to Sanford Stadium. Michael Adams is first class jerk if there ever was one. Coach Dooley has done so much for UGA and the state of Georgia itself. The only thing Michael Adams has done is being a thorn in our side.If the board of regents want to really do something worthwhile they can fire Adams.

By MVP

February 14, 2008 4:04 AM | Link to this

Is Coach Dooley selling Champion Blinds and siding on tv and ads in the AJC?

By For the Record

February 14, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Dooley hired Richt because he was forced to by Adams. He wanted to give Donnan one more year. The bottom line is that Richt wouldn’t be at Georgia if it wasn’t for Adams. On the other hand, Dooley didn’t want to hire Jim Harrick, but Adams forced him to do that, too.

By For the Recrod

February 14, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

BullDawg,

Get your facts straight. It’s Bobby Dodd Stadium at Grant Field.

Bobby Cremins wasn’t fired. He retired.

Dooley and Dodd only faced each other 3 times, at the very end of Dodd’s career. Does that negate all the things Dodd did in his career, including what he did against UGA? It’s not called the Bobby Dodd Coach of the Year Award for nothing. There was no Jan Kemp two years after he won his NC (he had other undefeated seasons as well), and we never ran afoul of the NCAA either. Can Dooley say that? That’s why he gets a garden statue while Dodd gets a national award named after him.

By Griffin Dog 81

February 14, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

I am fine with the honor being bestowed, but the Statue looks horrible!!!!

By Navigator

February 14, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Don’t worry Bulldogs, the man behind this dishonoring rather than honoring UGA’s greatest coach will some day get his too!

By ...................BuLLDawg

February 14, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this

I am a very insecure person. You have to understand that football is all I have. I’ll never have a diploma from UGA, but I do have a commemorative coke bottle from the 1980 National Championship.

By Jim

February 14, 2008 9:43 PM | Link to this

The only big deal here is the way this paper has blown this up. Naming the new complex after Coach Dooly is quite an honor, given the fact he is still alive and most people who things are named after are usually dead and gone. Why can’t you find something positive to write about? Stories on the football players who red-shirted this year and the progress they made while waiting in the wings would be nice. The bottem line is that reporters have gotten lazy and use this kind of bull to fill their columns.

By duedropinn

February 14, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this

meit was mtdutyi am 4 our culture if u dip ur dumb

By John Harris

February 14, 2008 11:27 PM | Link to this

* What is that thing hanging down between Dooley’s legs ? *

By dawg4life

February 15, 2008 1:23 AM | Link to this

It should be Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium or Dooley-Sanford Stadium. If you can hyphenate a stadium Ala la la land with the Bear then you can do in Athens. Those of us who give thousands to the school should raise our voices to be heard by the egomaniac president. Where’s Charlie Knapp when you need him? If Adams would just honor Dooley and quit his p** contest we’d all be happy. Sick Em Dawg Fans!

By ............................................BuLLdawg

February 16, 2008 5:18 AM | Link to this

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The main reason I hate Adam$ is that he and those who support his position on this controversy started by Adam$ consider that what the HOPE Scholarship has done for Academics at UGA, instead are a direct result of just only Michael F. Adam$. When you can say this, let me know ?

Now for Hunk Erdown’s position, that of course, no one can even consider disagreeing with him on :

Hunk Erdown :

Its time to realize that the stadium and field is going to stay the same as they are now. Blogging on here about “what a disgrace it is”… “a slap in Dooley’s face” is not only childish, it is wrong. It does nothing to honor Coach Dooley to bicker and complain about it, all it does is causes what should be a celebration for the Dooley family to be a controversial circus, and thats not Adams’ fault … he has finally progressed to doing something positive for Coach Dooley, its people like Bill King Buck Belue, and you other people that I shall crown as, “ Dooley’s Knights Templar ” who have diluted this thing into the sham it has become.

It sure as hell is Adam$’ fault Hunk Erdown.

And guess what ? He and you aren’t going to win.

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By ............................................BuLLdawg

February 16, 2008 5:57 AM | Link to this

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165-64-8 Robert Lee (Bobby) Dodd 22 years.

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201-77-10 Vincent Joseph Dooley 25 years.

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7.5 wins a year for Bobby Dodd.

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8.04 wins a year for Vince Dooley.

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Bobby Cremins 100 percent was run out of town on a rail by Georgia Tech.

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And, if he wasn’t, why is he still a coach today somewhere else, pray tell ?

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Vince Dooley, never lost and always WON against Bobby Dodd, every single game between the 2.

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12-10 Bobby Dodd vs. Georgia.

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19-6 Vince Dooley vs. Georgia Tech.

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By ............................................BuLLdawg

February 16, 2008 6:33 AM | Link to this

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Bobby Cremins had 3 losing seasons his last 4 years at Georgia Tech and that is why Georgia Tech ran him out of town on a rail. I was here. I read the comments daily leading up to every single Tech fan saying he had to go.

Why Tech fans now, want to re-write history, and have Bobby Dodd have his name at your football site (like you did Bobby Cremins Court at Alexander Memorial Coliseum), but cannot stand to hear that 19-6 Vince Dooley against Tech in football cannot have his name at our football site, is quite clear.

It is your jealousy of the success, not Bobby Dodd had against Georgia, but that which Vince Dooley had against Georgia Tech.

And, that is why Georgia fans will have Vince Dooley’s name at our football site as you have Bobby Dodd at your football site.

Bobby Dodd’s winning percentage was not better than Vince Dooley’s winning percentage.

And, any 1 national championship Georgia Tech fans claim for Bobby Dodd today were the very same polls who ranked Vince Dooley’s Bulldogs No. 1 three times.

Not 1 time ever has Georgia Tech been ranked No. 1 in the Final AP Polls.

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By ............................................BuLLdawg

February 16, 2008 6:45 AM | Link to this

You do not even know the names of your facilities.

Why don’t we talk about something else, like Baseball, and see if you know anything about that either ?

Bobby Dodd Stadium at Historic Grant Field for football

Alexander Memorial Coliseum at Cremins’ Court for men’s and women’s basketball

By Tman

February 16, 2008 7:40 AM | Link to this

The truth is Jan Kemp did more for College sports than Vince Dooley. She revolutionized women sports when the men wanted the girls to take home economics. Athletes had to go to class after her admissions on the student athlete’s preferential treatment. But she was loathed by UGA supporters for her truthfulness

By ............................................BuLLdawg

February 16, 2008 7:53 AM | Link to this

It is not Georgia, but Georgia Tech, who had 79 football scholarships again for the 2007-2008 football season because of your academic cheating - instead of 85 like every other college football team.

By For The Record

February 16, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

BuLLdawg,

The 79 scholarships are the result of the ONLY major violation in the history of Georgia Tech football, while Georgia has at least 4 (not counting the Jan Kemp embarassment which came 2 years after your NC). How convenient of you to leave that out. You also have at least 4 in basketball, while Tech has zero. The only other NCAA violation Tech has is one in tennis in the late 80’s.

You called our football stadium “Bobby Dodd Field” in an earlier post. That was incorrect. I don’t know if “historic” is actually part of the official name of our facility, so I left that out, but I know you were wrong and I corrected you.

Bobby Cremins was not fired, he resigned. It doesn’t matter what fans say - there were people calling for Richt’s head after the Tennessee game last year, and there are people calling for Hewitt and Felton’s head now. The school makes the decision, and Tech DID NOT fire Bobby Cremins. You are wrong. And what the hell does the fact he is a coach somewhere else have to do with it?

Finally, I don’t give a rat’s a** what you call your stadium over in Athens, and I think it is hilarious how seriously you all take yourselves. Georgia football is just like college football at any other school (including Tech): a bunch of jocks most of which aren’t smart enough to get into the school who run up and down the field while people cheer. The ones at Georgia can run a little faster and jump a little higher than the ones at most other schools. It’s entertaining and fun to watch, but that’s all it is, so stop pretending any of this, including what your stadium is called or where Dooley’s statue is located, is important. It’s not.

By AltamahaDawg

February 16, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

Tman, in all fairness I also thought she was wasn’t very pretty.

By ............................................BuLLdawg

February 17, 2008 1:04 AM | Link to this

It’s clear that no one knows the names of your Georgia Institute of Technology facilities, hell holes all of them.

And, unremarkable in any way.

Rusty old Chandler Field.

You have the unmitigated gall to sit there saying that the Georgia Institute of Technology was found guilty of major NCAA infractions both in 1989 and again in 2004, and that it is correct therefore that Georgia Tech lost six (6) scholarships in football for the 2007-2008 football season.

But, that you want to go back and talk about something 23 years ago.

Excuse the hell out of me, but it is Georgia Tech who has suffered the most recent NCAA Probation, NOT Georgia.

And, if the Tech fans don’t care what Georgia calls our field or our stadium, why in the name of God do you come into a thread about just exactly that and make post after post, Tech fan after Tech fan, saying how you disagree that we should HONOR Vincent Joseph Dooley ?

Figure it out.

You said that Bobby Dodd is great and that Vince Dooley is NOT. You said what Bobby Dodd did against UGA makes Bobby Dodd great.

12-10.

19-6.

Vince Dooley was 19-6 against Georgia Tech, and I see how you neatly skip past that. We see also how you attempt to mitigate Vince always BEATING and never losing to Bobby Dodd was just at the tail end of Bobby Dodd’s **less successful career than Vince Dooley’s.

You INCORRECTLY corrected me on the name of YOUR FOOTBALL STADIUM and now you attempt to say that it doesn’t matter either that you DO NOT KNOW ITS NAME.

Its name is its name. If you have the balls to correct someone on the name of YOUR stadium then by God be correct, or be CORRECTED PROPERLY - something you FAILED to do correctly.

You are FOS.

By ............................................BuLLdawg

February 17, 2008 1:07 AM | Link to this

I said that Bobby Cremins was run out of town on a rail by Georgia Tech fans. And, that you named the court for him after that.

Because he had losing seasons 3 of his last 4 years. And, that if that is not what happened, you also ducked, why is he coaching then somewhere else ?

By ............................................BuLLdawg

February 17, 2008 1:12 AM | Link to this

I presume your comment about how football is just a sport played at any school by a bunch of jocks most of which aren’t smart enough to get into the school and that Georgia’s can run a little faster and jump a little higher than the ones at Georgia Tech is also designed to mitigate ( make excuses for ) the facts that Georgia Tech’s football players have a WORSE APR than Georgia’s football players.

Is this where I point out that Coach Richt is 7-0 vs. Georgia Tech too ?

And, NOT been on Probation while Georgia Tech most assuredly has been for YEARS NOW.

By dawgwilson

February 17, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

Dooley was average at best,especially after his brother left us. If not for Walker’s 3 years it wouldn’t be an issue. Get real, he is a nice guy but not great.

By Ken

February 17, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

As an alumnus of UGA (BBA & MBA), I’d prefer that the stadium name remain as is, with no changes whatsoever. Naming an athletic complex after Coach Dooley is probably more than I would have suggested.

By For The Record

February 17, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

BullDawg,

I am on this post not because I care how UGA honors Dooley, but to correct you in front of your friends for mistakes you made talking about Georgia Tech. It’s fun to check back every few days and see what kind of jibberish you have come up with. I guess I am easily amused. Now, let’s get on with it:

“Excuse the hell out of me, but it is Georgia Tech who has suffered the most recent NCAA Probation, NOT Georgia.”

So what? You have 4 times as many major violations as us (not counting JK and assuming you don’t have any more outside of football and basketball), so the fact that we have the most recent one means what? NOTHING. We have the most recent national championship in football. Are you worried about that? Of course not.

The following is a cut and paste from your 2/13 post: “when you ran Bobby Cremins out of town on a rail, firing his butt.” You said Tech fired him - you were wrong.

I did not “incorrectly correct you” on the name of our stadium. You said it was Bobby Dodd Field. I said it wasn’t. I was right - you were wrong.

I haven’t ducked Dooley’s record against Tech, Richt’s record against Tech, or Dodd’s record against UGA. Dodd’s record is what it is: two undefeated seasons (back to back), a national championship, and NO problems with the NCAA. Apparently good enough to have the NCAA name it’s coach of the year award after him, just as the Heisman trophy is named after another Georgia Tech coach. Dooley is a fine man and was a good coach, but his tenure was marked by problems with the NCAA, and the embarassing Jan Kemp lawsuit. UGA won its national championship with many athletes who were taking remedial courses. To be fair, this was not illegal at the time. Tech went on probation (the only in their football history) for less: not properly training academic advisors and the registrar on NCAA procedures. That doesn’t excuse it, but the NCAA recognized that the violation was not intentional.

Even your own people are on here saying Dooley was average (which I don’t agree with). You’re not average either, if you catch my drift.

By reserviorDAWG

February 18, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

Let’s have a new topic Bill.

By Catfish Dawg

February 19, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

The silence can be heard all over the SEC from the Vol, LSU, Gamecock fans - your thug players getting arrested and breaking the laws. You guys sure have no problem getting on the UGA blog to call out a UGA player. Where is the Volman, Gamecock harry or larry or whatever, LSU fan????? How about this - the next time your want to get on the UGA blog and run your mouths - CLEAN UP YOUR OWN HOUSE FIRST!!!!

By Phil

February 19, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

Why do you Georgia A&M fans keep sticking your nose into what the Great University in Athens calls it Football stadium. Keep losing in your Notre Dame uniforms and playing in that parking lot named after that Union General that tried to destroy the south. Look around trade schoolers your in a housing project!

By The Big Bug

February 21, 2008 1:27 AM | Link to this

Phil, You’re a credit to your university.

By Cuz

February 21, 2008 8:00 AM | Link to this

New topic anyone, anyone, Bueller?

By bubba

February 21, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this

call is VD Stadium

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